What is the benefit of living in Cambodia, instead of Thailand or Vietnam?

Jerry Atrick · Post by **Jerry Atrick** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:45 am

La Quenta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:18 pm I would love to know because I am struggling to see it.

Against Thailand and Vietnam there is:

- poorer healthcare system
- higher corruption
- out of control development that would make even Vietnam blush
- less diversity in things to do and see
- worse driving
- the expats (this is not ALL, but many) are more difficult people
- local people are nice, but are very disengaged and aloof in comparison
- the job opportunities are smaller

Am I missing something?
This is not meant to offend, I have visited many times and I really like aspects of the country.
But compared to a life in Vietnam or Thailand it just can't compare on multiple levels.

Happy for people to prove me wrong.

- poorer healthcare system - not a concern and both those healthcare systems are an hours flight away
- higher corruption - very debatable
- out of control development that would make even Vietnam blush - similarly, very debatable
- less diversity in things to do and see - not a tourist
- worse driving - Thailand is WAY worse
- the expats (this is not ALL, but many) are more difficult people - you see yourself in others perhaps; people are people everywhere
- local people are nice, but are very disengaged and aloof in comparison - horseshit, that's Vietnam
- the job opportunities are smaller - that is true, but have earned more here than ever in Europe so go figure

Spigzy · Post by **Spigzy** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:07 am

No benefits whatsoever, please go to Thailand or Vietnam whilst we fix it, thanks.

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:08 am

Art wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:09 am
Alex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:28 pm The "easy visa" is certainly an important factor.

In Vietnam, unless you work there or marry a Vietnamese, it's tourist visas and visa runs.

In Thailand, unless you work here or marry a Thai or are 50 years old, it's tourist visas and visa runs. And Thai immigration won't tolerate that for as long as Vietnamese immigration.

Cambodia? Pay and get your next 1 year extension.
The Thai visa for 50+ comes with some money requirements: USD 21,787.41 into a Thai bank two months before getting a visa.
I spent most of my time in Cambodia simply because of their visa process. The older I get the less hassle I want.

Use of "agents" that "take care" of those financials is rampant in Thailand, so realistically, anyone who is 50+ years old and who isn't allergic to corruption can avoid jumping through the hoops.

WildAlaskaKen · Post by **WildAlaskaKen** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:18 am

Alex wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:08 am
Art wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:09 am
Alex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:28 pm The "easy visa" is certainly an important factor.

In Vietnam, unless you work there or marry a Vietnamese, it's tourist visas and visa runs.

In Thailand, unless you work here or marry a Thai or are 50 years old, it's tourist visas and visa runs. And Thai immigration won't tolerate that for as long as Vietnamese immigration.

Cambodia? Pay and get your next 1 year extension.
The Thai visa for 50+ comes with some money requirements: USD 21,787.41 into a Thai bank two months before getting a visa.
I spent most of my time in Cambodia simply because of their visa process. The older I get the less hassle I want.
Use of "agents" that "take care" of those financials is rampant in Thailand, so realistically, anyone who is 50+ years old and who isn't allergic to corruption can avoid jumping through the hoops.

And look mov er your shoulder these days.

Bluenose · Post by **Bluenose** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:33 am

La Quenta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:18 pm I would love to know because I am struggling to see it.

Against Thailand and Vietnam there is:

- poorer healthcare system
- higher corruption
- out of control development that would make even Vietnam blush
- less diversity in things to do and see
- worse driving
- the expats (this is not ALL, but many) are more difficult people
- local people are nice, but are very disengaged and aloof in comparison
- the job opportunities are smaller

Am I missing something?
This is not meant to offend, I have visited many times and I really like aspects of the country.
But compared to a life in Vietnam or Thailand it just can't compare on multiple levels.

Happy for people to prove me wrong.

- If you have suitable insurance there are some decent facilities - but not in the provinces as much
- plenty of that in Thailand, the low-level kind here can sometimes makes things easier
- not arguing, but if you live in a city anyway it's not so much of an issue
- as mentioned by another, I'm not a tourist but I enjoy Cambodia for what it is
- the traffic is a lot more patient and generally slower, and once you understand how it works it's quite good (I never learnt to drive and used public transport in the UK, now I ride a bike here so my "on the road" experience only comes from here - might be an issue if I tried it back in the UK!)
- depends what you mean by difficult
- locals tend to actively engage with you and are certainly not aloof
- depends on the business sector you work in and your experience

Fridaywithmateo · Post by **Fridaywithmateo** » Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:46 am

Chang Louie wrote in the April 8, 2024 Postbag section of the Bangkok Post ...

Fallen idyll

Re: "Phuket court responds to surge in tourist-related cases", (BP, April 4).

"I well remember the first time I read, while relaxing in Phuket, of the TAT and government's desire to attract "better quality tourists".

I was lunching in an idyllic laid-back tree-shaded beach restaurant on the paradise island that was Phuket some 30 years ago.

Like everyone from that era, I've watched how the desire for "better quality tourists" has changed the "Pearl of the Andaman" into the "Costa del Crime" of the East -- or as it's more generally known: "Little Moscow".

The search for better quality tourists has, in recent times, focused on package tourists from New Delhi and Wuhan and long-stay tourists (soon-to-be residents) with the VIP bonus of a 90-day visa on entry to smoke-filled oligarch meetings and mafia dens of Russia.

Apparently, it has come as a shock that thousands of Chinese have not been staying in Thailand for the sunbathing, but to set up scam centres and indulge in other crimes.

Murder, kidnapping, extortion, fraud and illegal businesses are regular news items in the Phuket press. This island was once raunchy but relaxing, but is now corrupt, greedy and manic.

Chang Louie.

Art · Post by **Art** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:48 am

Alex wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:08 am
Art wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:09 am
Alex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:28 pm The "easy visa" is certainly an important factor.

In Vietnam, unless you work there or marry a Vietnamese, it's tourist visas and visa runs.

In Thailand, unless you work here or marry a Thai or are 50 years old, it's tourist visas and visa runs. And Thai immigration won't tolerate that for as long as Vietnamese immigration.

Cambodia? Pay and get your next 1 year extension.
The Thai visa for 50+ comes with some money requirements: USD 21,787.41 into a Thai bank two months before getting a visa.
I spent most of my time in Cambodia simply because of their visa process. The older I get the less hassle I want.
How much, though?
Use of "agents" that "take care" of those financials is rampant in Thailand, so realistically, anyone who is 50+ years old and who isn't allergic to corruption can avoid jumping through the hoops.

khmerhamster · Post by **khmerhamster** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:50 am

Massive benefit to me for living in Cambodia.

I mean, it's where I work, and the commute from Vietnam/Thailand each day would be a PITA.

Mr Cynical · Post by **Mr Cynical** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:24 am

In Thailand No need for an agent for a Visa if over 50 just transfer 65,000 baht ( $1,790.00 us or £1,500) per month which you can use to live on no need for large deposit account. Maybe most of the expats in Cambodia/Vietnam do not have access to those sort of funds monthly.

sigmoid · Post by **sigmoid** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:19 pm

Additionally, it seems that the traditional New Year celebrations are somewhat more civilized in Cambodia than those in Thailand and Laos (?) as well as shorter in duration.

What is the benefit of living in Cambodia, instead of Thailand or Vietnam?

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