What Chinese tourism means to Cambodia
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It'd be interesting to know for certain where their $ are spent. I hear lots of conjecture and hearsay about how the Chinese don't spend any money with local businesses. Maybe it's correct. I don't know.
I see Chinese in tuk tuks, buying from stalls, renting apartments/motos from Khmers, buying Khmer land, shopping at Khmer owned supermarkets/electrical shops etc, paying police fines (Which reminds that no barang are bitching about being stopped now!), food being delivered bulk (Queenco,) by Khmer dudes with Khmer names of the company on the side.
I know a few Khmer who drive for Khmer bus companies but cater to Chinese. He said all drivers are Khmer.
I've seen a few local girls with Chinese. Assuming they met them in bars, spending money at locals, or barang, businesses.
I've also heard lots of people say they bring over their own labourers. Skilled workers maybe. I've looked inside these big construction sites and I just see lots of Khmers with a few smartly dressed Chinese. Who knows.
I don't know. It just seems knee jerk to say it isn't benefit the local economy.
Maybe I'm viewing it with Anchor tinted spectacles.
I see Chinese in tuk tuks, buying from stalls, renting apartments/motos from Khmers, buying Khmer land, shopping at Khmer owned supermarkets/electrical shops etc, paying police fines (Which reminds that no barang are bitching about being stopped now!), food being delivered bulk (Queenco,) by Khmer dudes with Khmer names of the company on the side.
I know a few Khmer who drive for Khmer bus companies but cater to Chinese. He said all drivers are Khmer.
I've seen a few local girls with Chinese. Assuming they met them in bars, spending money at locals, or barang, businesses.
I've also heard lots of people say they bring over their own labourers. Skilled workers maybe. I've looked inside these big construction sites and I just see lots of Khmers with a few smartly dressed Chinese. Who knows.
I don't know. It just seems knee jerk to say it isn't benefit the local economy.
Maybe I'm viewing it with Anchor tinted spectacles.
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I agree with what you are saying bangkokhooker. Lots of Chinese here buying in bulk in the supermarket. Plenty more then any westerner I know. Buying land or renting is happening too. When I was in the works department last a guy emptied a briefcase of Chinese passports, for application of work permits.
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I can understand the resentment from barang - being turfed out of their apartments, often multiple times, and having to pay more for a quicky (because Chinese not cheap Charley).
They've also pushed land ownership away from locals and barang, and people who would have liked to have had the opportunity to flip the land for a profit. Hello. I'm here you bastards!
The locals kind of raise an eyebrow and say "Chen churan" (whatever the spelling for lots of Chinks is) but they certainly don't hate or dispise them.
I see enough idiot westerners gobbing off to think the locals have had enough of the Chinese!
Yes they get arrested in bulk but they are only stitching up their own countrymen.
They've also pushed land ownership away from locals and barang, and people who would have liked to have had the opportunity to flip the land for a profit. Hello. I'm here you bastards!
The locals kind of raise an eyebrow and say "Chen churan" (whatever the spelling for lots of Chinks is) but they certainly don't hate or dispise them.
I see enough idiot westerners gobbing off to think the locals have had enough of the Chinese!
Yes they get arrested in bulk but they are only stitching up their own countrymen.
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Most of the smaller companies (Chinese) are the same as everyone else. They rent places, buy food, use the available entertainment etc. They contribute to the general society in Cambodia. Some are dicks but we know western expats are same.
What people here are saying is that when the Chinese get set up here there are tour companies that abuse the system (in the eyes of all others) by having a complete monopoly on the Chinese tourists. They sell the complete package. They control the aircraft ticketing, all transport, catering and accommodation. They will eventually own the "gift shops" that the tourist will be bussed to to buy souvenirs. All fees are paid in China.......
As stated only fuel and a small amount of wages (maybe some TAX?) will make its way into the Cambodian economy.
What people here are saying is that when the Chinese get set up here there are tour companies that abuse the system (in the eyes of all others) by having a complete monopoly on the Chinese tourists. They sell the complete package. They control the aircraft ticketing, all transport, catering and accommodation. They will eventually own the "gift shops" that the tourist will be bussed to to buy souvenirs. All fees are paid in China.......
As stated only fuel and a small amount of wages (maybe some TAX?) will make its way into the Cambodian economy.
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Large groups of Chinese tourists must be low-hanging fruit for meth-addicted bag snatchers. Say what you like about these thieving pricks, but most of what they steal from tourists goes into the local economy.
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You mean official tax or the unofficial? Have you not noticed the increase in huge SUVs, Lexus and other luxury vehicles? Have you only been here 2 or 3 years?
Infrastructure, world aid? Well they must be just getting round to giving it to SHV then, any day soon we'll all be rejoicing the new water treatment, decent road repairs and sewage/waste management and can look forward to being ill so we can be admitted to the top spec hospital facilities. I won't hold my breath .
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GF does a lot of work at the markets and reckons Chinese sellers are setting up shop, and Chinese customers have stopped buying from Khmers - this is veggies, seafood and everything else available from the markets.
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It sounds like another nation doesn't want to mix with the locals! But saying that they have to buy from someone to sell.
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I don't buy my produce at the market, or Sunmudera for that matter, I use Khmer wholesale or CMB mart which is owned and delivered by Russians, or at least Eastern Europeans. I know lots of people who buy bread and rolls of the Bakerman guy rather than go to the local bakery. Lots of people buy stuff online rather than buy from local shops.
Why is that any different from Chinese buying from Chinese?
Why is that any different from Chinese buying from Chinese?
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Chinese guy keeps coming round trying to rent my house, this whole street is basically becoming rental properties. Next door is even finally putting in his upstairs, it's only been like that for four years. Seems a bit of an oversight to have the stairs outside. I've seen Chinese people out eating and drinking in non-Chinese owned places.
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