Well, what can I say?

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Re: Well, what can I say?

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P.S. Shlomo...I never get pissy, just couldn't be assed repeating myself and trying to explain things to people who just don't get it time and time again...yes, the whole immigration system can get a bit confusing at times, but it's not really that difficult to understand and work out.

Not sure what you're talking about me being lucid FB?

When I have the time (or if I can be bothered), I will write a new guide, but until there are a few clarifications from the relevant authorities I won't bother.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:05 pm P.S. Shlomo...I never get pissy, just couldn't be assed repeating myself and trying to explain things to people who just don't get it time and time again...yes, the whole immigration system can get a bit confusing at times, but it's not really that difficult to understand and work out.

Not sure what you're talking about me being lucid FB?
I think you have been an excellent source of information concerning the "visa" situation. You have explained the process in great details many times. Someone asks a question, you answer succinctly and then you get asked the same question over again! I commend you for your patience, I think I would have cracked long ago! :thumb:

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Re: Well, what can I say?

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shlomo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:49 am
vladimir wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:44 am Kiwi's point is that there is a legal basis for it, your job is to find someone who respects that, and get them to help you.
Christ almighty, I know what his point is............there are many things in Cambodia that have 'legal' basis....but in reality seem to not fucking be so.

For some people this is a time sensitive issue with EOS's coming due etc. and they don't have time to 'find someone who respects that, and get them to help you'.

People need actionable intel. What is currently being approved and what documents are required.

Not some dismissive wave of the hand, 'the prakas says thus.........now go forth and receive thy 12 month EG EOS or if you have proof of Cambodian marriage, 12 month EB EOS.'

PSD, you've been much more lucid over on the .....[redacted]
Way to out a bloke mate
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Che wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:37 pm
shlomo wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:49 am
vladimir wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:44 am Kiwi's point is that there is a legal basis for it, your job is to find someone who respects that, and get them to help you.
Christ almighty, I know what his point is.....
Well, you've managed to fool everyone on here so far. :D
Jesus loves you...Mexico is great, right? ;)
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Re: Well, what can I say?

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Somebody made a mess of those quotes there
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Username Taken wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:47 pm Sub-Decree
on
Procedures to Allow
Non-Immigrant Foreigners to Enter, Leave, and Reside in the Kingdom of Cambodia

Article 20:
Procedures required in requesting extension of temporary stay are as follows:
1. Fill out an extension application.
2. Attach passport with validity of at least six (6) months beyond the extension period to be requested.
3. Provide one (1) 4 x 6 photo.
4. Pay fee – or to be exempted from paying fee – in accordance with Article 22 of this sub-decree.
5. For extension of business visa, individuals shall attach:
a. EB visa type
• Business license and Patent Certificate, or
• Work Contract, or
• Necessary documents supporting the emerging necessity during the extension period being sought
• Documents proving marital status and relationship with children.
Can be found online somewhere "Sub-decree on visa types_Eng.pdf"
The way I read this is for an EB visa you will require:

• Business license and Patent Certificate, or
• Work Contract, or
• Necessary documents supporting the emerging necessity during the extension period being sought

and (if you are a dependent in need of an EB visa)

• Documents proving marital status and relationship with children.

Notice there is an "OR" after the first 2 bullet points. There is no "OR" after "Necessary documents supporting..." implying the next statement (marital status) is a new, independent item.

This prakas seems to clearly indicate that a marriage certificate, by itself, is not sufficient to support an EB visa. You also need one of the first 3 items.

Of course, it is dangerous to make assumptions based only on the English translation.
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Time not to go into a rushed marriage then.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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Re: Well, what can I say?

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The "documents proving marital status" as mentioned in the Prakas are for foreign non-working spouses... But the DoI will issue 12 mth EB EOS's to non-working foreigners who are legally married in the Kingdom, fact.
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Interesting, because I was told that a visa would not be issued to a dependent of a Khmer without supporting papers and a letter from the working, Khmer spouse's company. Where did you hear the more liberal interpretation of this?
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AndyKK wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:59 pm
Ronny wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:38 am I got the "EB VISA and did all the right thigs and then went to an agent where my Filipino friends go to get my visa extention and found out thst they will only give me a 3 month visa extension. I even tried to nasically bribe the guy and he jokingly said hett was afraid of getting arrested. And then I basically told my girlfriend "screw this" and said I'll go to Lucky Lucky and the giy heard me and saos don't bother because his sister works thete and the new visa law was passed on October 1. Guys, what do you think?
Have you got your work permit?
Not yet. With the Water Festival and all, I was told it would be better to wait until after the festival before looking for a job.
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