Will you get the vaccine?
Re: Vaccines
That is going to be fact I would believe, I would think we may find ourselves fitting in that of what we could call the remainder of the situation, that's when the government here takes the vaccine from anywhere for theta group of remainder that they care less about.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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MY daughter has long covid, tested positive in Julynerdlinger wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:37 am I feel like there isn’t enough attention given to the huge number of non-fatal cases that leave people with permanent lung scarring, internal clotting leading to strokes, and seemingly permanent fatigue.
I’m more scared of long covid than of death.
5 months on still suffers; fatigue, headaches, "brain fog", insomnia, occasional shortness of breath an other minor inconveniences
She worked as a Tech in a veterinarian hospital and cant return yet to work because of this.
Her Drs have no idea how to treat it or how long it will last
I will get it, hopefully by April, as it becomes available in Thailand ( at a price) BUT i dont think it will eliminate entirely the need for testing before travel and only wishing it eliminates the need for quarantine ( or for Cambodia makes them go back to only a few nights)
I also can see the need in the future for all expats, long term settlers in a strange land, that a covid vaccine will be necessary to renew extensions/visas
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Countries may not make it the law that you have to take the vaccine, but life will eventually become impossible for those who haven't been vaccinated. It will begin with international travel - No vaccine, no fly. And will work it's way down through every element of society even down to where you work - No vaccine, no entry to your workplace.
I'm no medical expert, far from it, but I'm fascinated with how these things work and how they managed to get one ready in such a short time, and almost nothing I've read / watched has made me think that there is any danger to this vaccine. Unlike other vaccines, instead of injecting a small amount of the entire virus, this one only consists of a few of the spikes (or 'crowns') - the part of the virus that attaches to your cells. You don't receive any of the virus itself. This is enough to 'train' your body what to look out for.
It's a technique that hasn't been tried before simply because we didn't have the technology to do it. You have to create a 3D model of the virus, especially the 'crown' part, almost like 3D printing, and they had to build a specific machine that was able to do it.
It's all very impressive once you take your tin-foil hat off and read up on the actual science behind this vaccine.
So no, I've no issue with taking the vaccine at all.
I'm no medical expert, far from it, but I'm fascinated with how these things work and how they managed to get one ready in such a short time, and almost nothing I've read / watched has made me think that there is any danger to this vaccine. Unlike other vaccines, instead of injecting a small amount of the entire virus, this one only consists of a few of the spikes (or 'crowns') - the part of the virus that attaches to your cells. You don't receive any of the virus itself. This is enough to 'train' your body what to look out for.
It's a technique that hasn't been tried before simply because we didn't have the technology to do it. You have to create a 3D model of the virus, especially the 'crown' part, almost like 3D printing, and they had to build a specific machine that was able to do it.
It's all very impressive once you take your tin-foil hat off and read up on the actual science behind this vaccine.
So no, I've no issue with taking the vaccine at all.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never allow the dumb ones to lead the pack.
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[quote="dontbeasourlemon"Conspiracy: A coworker of mine said she wasn't sure if she was going to get the vaccine as she heard a rumor they where injecting HIV as a form of population control.[/quote]
Umm... the Aussie vaccine had HIV fragments as part of the carrier, so technically, YES, those vaccinated would get a positive HIV result. Not getting the HIV virus or AIDS, just getting a positive result on the test.
Of course it was tested only on patients with HIV to reduce false positive rate.
And after the public learned of this, the Aussie vaccine trial was promptly halted and the vaccine was discarded for use.
Umm... the Aussie vaccine had HIV fragments as part of the carrier, so technically, YES, those vaccinated would get a positive HIV result. Not getting the HIV virus or AIDS, just getting a positive result on the test.
Of course it was tested only on patients with HIV to reduce false positive rate.
And after the public learned of this, the Aussie vaccine trial was promptly halted and the vaccine was discarded for use.
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I have complete sympathy for her, for the fact it directly affects her, and also for the fact that her case is mostly unacknowledged while the mass hysteria that is the norm surrounding all of this continues.phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:51 am MY daughter has long covid, tested positive in July
5 months on still suffers; fatigue, headaches, "brain fog", insomnia, occasional shortness of breath an other minor inconveniences
She worked as a Tech in a veterinarian hospital and cant return yet to work because of this.
Her Drs have no idea how to treat it or how long it will last
In Europe, I’m listed as a key worker. While passenger aviation has been hard hit, the freight sector has been pretty busy. In fact, this year is my busiest year so far (in 5 years) with my outfit. But the conditions down route have been mindless bordering on insane.I will get it, hopefully by April, as it becomes available in Thailand ( at a price) BUT i dont think it will eliminate entirely the need for testing before travel and only wishing it eliminates the need for quarantine ( or for Cambodia makes them go back to only a few nights)
I also can see the need in the future for all expats, long term settlers in a strange land, that a covid vaccine will be necessary to renew extensions/visas
This week alone, (5 days, actually) I’ve had 3 PCR tests.
One freebie, by the NHS in the UK- because it goes with the territory now, and it also saved me booking a private test to get a positive result at my cost. But then, I need the private test, because a test given by the NHS system does not include a NEGATIVE certificate.
And then again, yesterday evening.
Anything that alleviates this might be welcome.
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Anyone in the UK or planning to return there sometime next year, and getting their shot then, can now use this online date predictor. Put in your details (no names or email BS either) and it give you a tentative date based on 1 million people per week being inoculated.
Mine is sometime in June which fits very nicely with my 2021 plans. But, as we know, God laughs when we make plans.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk
Mine is sometime in June which fits very nicely with my 2021 plans. But, as we know, God laughs when we make plans.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk
Re: Will you get the vaccine?
Being in Thailand, I have just as much chance as you dudes in Cambodia being offered a Chinese jab. Not a chance of that happening. Far too many faulty/fake vaccines being made there, in multiple cases. Also, it is said the Chinese are using old techniques.
Watch this fresh video by Laowhy86, also known as C-Milk. who has over 10 years of living experience in China. He left in a hurry earlier this year, I believe, and returned to the US. His young Chinese daughter was a victim of a faulty vaccine. Many babies died.
I hope the private hospitals in Thailand get some proper vaccines such as from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna or AstraZeneca. I'd pay for one of these. But the good vaccines might not appear until mid-summer at best in Thailand.
Watch this fresh video by Laowhy86, also known as C-Milk. who has over 10 years of living experience in China. He left in a hurry earlier this year, I believe, and returned to the US. His young Chinese daughter was a victim of a faulty vaccine. Many babies died.
I hope the private hospitals in Thailand get some proper vaccines such as from Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna or AstraZeneca. I'd pay for one of these. But the good vaccines might not appear until mid-summer at best in Thailand.
Re: Will you get the vaccine?
yes, being in my mid 30s I'm not overly concerned over getting it, I do expect travel passports will become a thing
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If they can fuck this up like everything else we should get the vaccine about 2025 , they will probably get all the vaccines and forget to order the needles, useless twatsDoc67 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:43 pm Anyone in the UK or planning to return there sometime next year, and getting their shot then, can now use this online date predictor. Put in your details (no names or email BS either) and it give you a tentative date based on 1 million people per week being inoculated.
Mine is sometime in June which fits very nicely with my 2021 plans. But, as we know, God laughs when we make plans.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk
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WTF? Bullshit.newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:16 am Umm... the Aussie vaccine had HIV fragments as part of the carrier, so technically, YES, those vaccinated would get a positive HIV result. Not getting the HIV virus or AIDS, just getting a positive result on the test.
Of course it was tested only on patients with HIV to reduce false positive rate.
And after the public learned of this, the Aussie vaccine trial was promptly halted and the vaccine was discarded for use.
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