PP's "undesirables" to be dumped at Prey Speu

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PP's "undesirables" to be dumped at Prey Speu

Post by Soi Dog » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:24 am

Snatching people from traffic stop lights?
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After months of claiming that Phnom Penh’s notorious Prey Speu Social Affairs Centre had all but shut down, officials yesterday told the Post that the facility would be used in its latest efforts to rid the streets of “undesirables”.

City Hall spokesman Long Dimanche said that in its forthcoming roundup of homeless people, beggars and street sellers, some will be sent to Prey Speu, a facility that has drawn the ire of rights groups for flagrant abuses.

We are going to collect street people at the traffic light stops, but we cannot say which day . . . For small children, we will send them to NGOs and for older people, we will send them to Prey Speu.”

Dimanche added that he was unsure how many people would be collected in the next roundup or how long they would stay at the centre.

Despite repeated claims that Prey Speu, which authorities say houses only a handful of “elderly and mentally ill people”, was essentially down, Dimanche said people sent there could now expect to receive “vocational training”.

Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch’s Asia division, dismissed this latest claim as “laughable”.

“Prey Speu has a long history as a centre where detainees face regular beatings from the guards, inadequate food and medical attention, and neglect . . . The centre is a human rights abomination that should be closed once and for all,” he said.

Am Sam Ath, technical supervisor at rights group Licadho, agreed that sending people to the centre would be “a kind of violation of their human rights”.

In June, the Post found that children as young as 7 were sent to Prey Speu after being rounded up.

But yesterday, while Dimanche admitted that plans exist to use the centre in the future, he denied its use in previous city sweeps.

Pin Sarapich, program director at Pour un Sourire d’Enfant, said that the NGO was still seeking to help a group of children rounded up last week.

“We are only involved in stopping children [from] suffering,” he said.
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Re: PP's "undesirables" to be dumped at Prey Speu

Post by frank lee bent » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:51 am

It will fill up quick then.
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Post by vladimir » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:00 am

I'm staying in the centre lane from now on.
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Post by Soi Dog » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:03 am

vladimir wrote:I'm staying in the centre lane from now on.
Do homeless Cambodians/beggars really congregate at intersections?
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Post by StroppyChops » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:24 am

Soi Dog wrote:
vladimir wrote:I'm staying in the centre lane from now on.
Do homeless Cambodians/beggars really congregate at intersections?
Yeah, they do.
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Post by Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:27 am

Yeah... Russian boulevard and Monivong is always chock full of them. Moniving and Sihanouk also has quite a few. Lots of gas stations too, usually with parents sitting idly nearby.
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Post by Joker Poker » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:38 am

So the drug dealing Tuk Tuks and Motodops are desirable then, as are the pricks who offer children, the Flip scammers and drunken SUV drivers that kill and maim. But at least there will be no poor children at traffic lights - FFS!
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Post by vladimir » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:07 pm

Quite a few kids at the corner of MTT and 217, right near InterContinental Hotel, an embarrassment when toffs go for $1000 Chinese dinners (including shark fin soup), or when Obama visits.
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Re: PP's "undesirables" to be dumped at Prey Speu

Post by Francis » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:44 pm

If I remember correctly the story goes back to the year 2004 when a French organization called Afesip (sponsored by the US with more than $ 2 million per year) led by a Mr. Pierre Legros raided the Chai Hour hotel and illegally detained and sexually abused more than 80 women. A couple of days later the women were freed by the Cambodian army because the owner of the Chai Hour hotel was better connected than Mr. Legros.

Wanna keep it short – anyway, some Cambodian officials were quite pissed off, particularly because this hasn’t been the first incidence where foreign NGO’s were involved in that way and a kind of act of defiance kicked in. At this time they reinvented/reactivated a place called Prey Speu which soon became known as the notorious “rape center”.
From that time on Cambodian police forces detained young beggar girls for the purpose of “re-education”, raped them for about 2 weeks and then kicked them out..

In this respect that statement is quite interesting:
“For small children, we will send them to NGOs and for older people, we will send them to Prey Speu.”

I dare to translate that statement: Nothing, absolutely nothing will change or do you really believe that our officials are going to fuck older people. Nuts, uhh ?
Und der Haifisch der hat Tränen
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht

In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
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Re: PP's "undesirables" to be dumped at Prey Speu

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:53 pm

Thanks for that bit of history Francis - I knew none of that and it helps to understand the statement that's being passed around.
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