Is the Coronavirus Fueling Anti-Chinese Sentiment ?

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Arget wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:01 pm Rumour has it that Trump secretly set off the infection in China by the CIA at CNY to take the focus away from the nothing agreement on tariffs just made and to steer the press away from impeachment reporting. He is trying to cause further economic issues in China as he knew it would effect trade and travel and everyone would pick on Chinese people.

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Arget wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:01 pm Rumour has it that Trump secretly set off the infection in China by the CIA at CNY to take the focus away from the nothing agreement on tariffs just made and to steer the press away from impeachment reporting. He is trying to cause further economic issues in China as he knew it would effect trade and travel and everyone would pick on Chinese people.

Bloody smart bloke this Trump .
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There's apparently an upsurge in anti-Asian sentiment. It's quite ridiculous how some people lump all Asians together in generalisations. Like someone from Afghanistan has anything in common with an East Timorese etc.
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Maybe if they didn't eat bats people would be less likely to say something. Pretty sure the English are equally racist to everyone, it doesn't make you special. They hate people from the village next door.
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This may cause some to question anything the Chinese do or get involved with.
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cptrelentless wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:52 pm Maybe if they didn't eat bats people would be less likely to say something. Pretty sure the English are equally racist to everyone, it doesn't make you special. They hate people from the village next door.
Who are "they"? How many Chinese actually eat bats? Have they proved there was any connection with bats?
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clutchcargo wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:27 am
Doc67 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:43 am Of course it is. When a nation regularly is at the centre, i.e. creates, new virus' and send the world into a panic, is anyone remotely surprised when people get sick (sic) of them?
Swine flu, bird flu, SARs et al and now this... There's a lot of people in China hence it might be logical for these viruses to originate there. However, isn't it also a factor that their hygiene standards associated with livestock farming and food preparation (eg think the gutter oil video) are often less than desired in the pursuit of $$$ at all costs?

Another recent example: Chinese criminal gangs spreading African swine fever to force farmers to sell pigs cheaply so they can profit
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Some "funny" quotes from experts in asia on the Coronavirus

BANGKOK — In Myanmar, loudspeakers broadcast advice from Buddhist monks: Seven ground peppercorns, exactly seven, placed on the tongue will ward off the coronavirus spreading across Asia and the world.
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In Indonesia, Terawan Agus Putranto, the health minister, advised citizens to relax and eschew overtime work to avoid the disease, which has killed more than 300 people and infected more than 14,000 others, mostly in China.

“To prevent it is very easy as long as your immunity is good,” Mr. Terawan said.
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And in Cambodia, Prime Minister HE told a packed news conference on Thursday that he would kick out anyone who was wearing a surgical mask because such measures were creating an unwarranted climate of fear.

“The prime minister doesn’t wear a mask,” he said, “so why do you?”

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Medical experts worry that a delayed response could hasten the spread of the disease.

“Our greatest concern is the potential for the virus to spread to countries with weaker health systems,” said Tedros Adhanom G
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“We are not as prepared as first-world countries,” said Anthony Leachon, a Philippine health advocate who had urged a temporary entry ban, even if it risked riling Beijing. “Countries should break protocols to save their people.”

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The chances of him spreading the disease is very low,” said Mr. Rungrueng, noting that the space between beds in the general ward was more than a yard. “Our medical staff always wash their hands in and out.
It will not be communicable to other
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Yet in Wuhan, the coronavirus has infected medical workers, including a doctor who had raised the alarm about the mysterious virus

As the virus has spread across the region, some governments have remained in denial.

At one hospital in Yangon, the largest city in Myanmar, a slide show during a presentation on preventing the spread of coronavirus said: “Don’t be so afraid of the coronavirus. It won’t last long because ‘made in China.’”
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“Health is not a joke, and the virus is not a joke either,” said Aung Aung, a surgeon at Mandalay General Hospital. “I don’t think Myanmar has the modern techniques to know whether the virus is here.”

On Friday, Myanmar announced its first suspected case, involving a Chinese man who had arrived by plane from Guangzhou. Myanmar does not have the capacity to test for this specific coronavirus, said U Zaw Htay, a government spokesman. Any samples will need to be sent to Thailand or Hong Kong, which could take up to a week.
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Even high-level officials have been trading in folk remedies. After a Facebook user in Myanmar wrote a widely read tribute to onions as a way to prevent transmission of the coronavirus, the chief minister of Tanintharyi Division, U Myint Mg, shared the post on his Facebook page.

“The Chinese government has announced that people should consume and have on hand as many onions as they can,” the post read, with no basis in fact.
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Cambodia has only one confirmed case of the deadly virus, involving a Chinese national in the boomtown of Sihanoukville, which has been remade by an influx of tens of thousands of Chinese workers. About 3,000 travelers from Wuhan have flown to Cambodia since the epidemic was announced last month, according to Cambodian civil aviation authorities.

In a country with limited media freedoms, some Cambodians worry that the full scope of the virus’s potential impact is not being reported for political reasons. The country’s health minister suggested that Cambodia’s hot and humid climate could ward off the coronavirus.

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Mr. HE, the prime minister, who has tethered his country close to China, has said he will not ban flights from China. Nor will he organize an effort to evacuate Cambodians from Wuhan, as other nations have done, he said, because they “have to continue staying there and joining with Chinese to fight this disease.”

“Is there any Cambodian or foreigner in Cambodia who has died of the disease?” the prime minister asked. “The real disease happening in Cambodia right now is the disease of fear. It is not the coronavirus that occurs in China’s Wuhan city.”

Indonesia, where direct flights from Wuhan brought tourists to the holiday island of Bali, has not confirmed any cases of coronavirus, leading to concerns about lax monitoring of incoming passengers. The virus has been found in Malaysia, Singapore and Australia, three much less populous countries around Indonesia.

Laos, a secretive socialist nation on the border with China, has also not confirmed any cases, even though a large number of Chinese tourists and workers cycle through the country.


“People are upset,” said Andes Putra, the head of Natuna’s Parliament, noting that local officials had been given scant information about the virus
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Mr. Terawan, the health minister, has suggested that the coronavirus will not affect people who exercise properly and sleep amply.

“Don’t fret,” he said. “Just enjoy and eat enough.”
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Anti Chinese sentiment, ......I think eating bat's is the last thing on their minds......
How about shooting's, kidnappings, drug dealing and spitting.........people didn't need a virus to be pissed off with our Chinese friends

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DaveG wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:17 pm Anti Chinese sentiment, ......I think eating bat's is the last thing on their minds......
How about shooting's, kidnappings, drug dealing and spitting.........people didn't need a virus to be pissed off with our Chinese friends
This is probably the thing- resentment at their continuing insensitive behaviour worldwide has probably been waiting for something to tip the scales. Here it is. Is it a rational reaction? Unlikely. But to ignore the background and try to simply blame it on xenophobia is not going to fix the issue. The Chinese, among many others, for a long time in modern times have displayed utter contempt and indifference. Are they the worst? Possibly, possibly not. But at present, they ARE in the spotlight.
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Among media reported crimes, I’d hazard a guess that Chinese criminals feature disproportionately.

Have you seen how they treat each other?
Have you seen how Indian/Pakistani/Bengali communities behave among each other, and within their chosen new home countries?
Asia in general is very much a poor example of enlightened behaviour.

It may be that only a minority are creating the conditions for ill feeling. But the feelings exist, and little is done by the wider group to assuage that. They just go blindly on.

There are plenty of comments on these pages about how the behaviour of just a few expat westerners create a poor appearance for all western expats. If this were centred in America, would there be a similar backlash?
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