Teachers’ extra earnings

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Re: Teachers’ extra earnings

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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:56 am Negative. High school salary in the city is currently around that. Might be lower in the countryside for obvious reasons (much lower of cost living). I'm not 100% sure (could check), but I think primary school teachers now make exactly the same as grade 7-12 teachers.

Keep in mind that there's a big reform going on at the moment. The vast majority of teachers in the countryside don't have a degree. Up to grade 9, they typically just go to a teacher training college in Phnom Penh and do a two year course after high school. They focus on the subject they'll be teaching, as well as teaching methodology and so on. They then go on to teach grades 1-9. Teachers grade 10-12 need a degree. There probably is a pay difference between grade 7 teachers with no degree and grade 12 teachers with a degree. However, pretty soon teachers teaching grades 7 onwards (maybe even primary school, can't remember) will be required to have a full university degree. Teacher trainers will need a masters (currently only need an undergraduate degree+training), and so on. This is all happening as we speak, so a lot of changes in requirements, pay, etc.

The students from the new NGS system (New Generation School) are pretty clued in. A lot of bright kids coming out of public schools now, it's not a bad. Sisowath was the first school to implement the new curriculum. The teachers who teach NGS have a different outfit (green skirts I think). Things are definitely improving, it's just slow and underfunded (but that's generally true of education worldwide). Teachers put up with the low salary because of the flexibility it allows: they can teach extra classes, or work part time at a private school to compensate. Take that away without a significant increase in pay, and they wouldn't be able to attract anyone.
Highly informative - I never knew about NGS - Green skirts and I presume the guys have a similar distinguishing style - Thanks for that BKL
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Re: Teachers’ extra earnings

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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:39 am They make around $400. Under five years ago it was $200-250, so there's definitely been a good increase. Still, it's not exactly much considering factory workers make $190 minimum, not counting overtime... Most professionals can now easily make $400-1000

$400 bucks a tad high.. then again im no expert, im just going by per capita income... $1k range is in the china range for sal so its hard to imagine that scale in cam
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Re: Teachers’ extra earnings

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Jcml19 wrote:
Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:39 am They make around $400. Under five years ago it was $200-250, so there's definitely been a good increase. Still, it's not exactly much considering factory workers make $190 minimum, not counting overtime... Most professionals can now easily make $400-1000

$400 bucks a tad high.. then again im no expert, im just going by per capita income... $1k range is in the china range for sal so its hard to imagine that scale in cam
Not that high really. I know plenty of professionals in the city making $600-1200+. Sky is the limit for business owners. Again, a teacher can make $1000 when they do the extra classes/tutoring on the side. No matter what some crappy NGO might claim about people living off $1/day, the days of $80/month are long gone, even for the cleaners and beer garden waiters. Only in remote parts of the countryside are salaries still really low. For the rest, I'd say they've followed/surpassed inflation. How do you think so many people can afford cars, houses, $4 coffees and so on?

As for the elections having something to do with it (taabarang), I don't think so. The minister of education was appointed back in 2013 or so, so it's not like these are last minute, recent changes. There have been constant stream of changes, most notably to clampdown on rampant grade 12 cheating and maintaining higher standards in that regard. They've done a good job at it, and students are now taking it seriously as it's not really possible to bribe your way through anymore. Other changes involve trying to modernize the curriculum, improvement to the renumeration of staff as we as requiring higher qualifications and training. It's not all sunshine and rainbows of course, but it's a slow work in progress, as is to be expected when starting off with such a low standard to begin with.
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Re: Teachers’ extra earnings

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A very interesting forum topic and one that I am following with considerable interest.

Also most refreshing to see actual discussion and pro and con being posted to forum instead of previously more usual personal attacks/dennegration.

I am particularly interested in this discussion, as one of the several Khmer females whose education I am fully committed to supporting has expressed a desire to become, "as a minimum", a graduate School Teacher and, if at all possible, gain entry to medical school.

Horrendously, she is one of 49 in her Year 11 class in provincial Cambodia!

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