CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 8:10 pm Best Educator of the Year Award at the PIEoneer Awards ceremony held in London last year organised by the Professionals in International Education (PIE), celebrating innovation and achievements in international education.

Surely someone could've come up with a better acronym

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NeverNude wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 10:48 am

Cinnamoncat wrote: Like Stroppychops, I have an M.Ed. and have taught English in the States for many years, primarily literature and writing. I'm a Reading Specialist too, which means graduate studies in that.

You can’t teach in the States without a teaching certification. Also, Reading Specialist would either be another specific teaching certification, or it would be a part of an M. Special Ed. Not M. Ed. Not sure what “which means graduate studies in that” means.

Not saying schools in Cambodia wouldn’t give someone that job and title, but it is annoying seeing people BS about their qualifications which seems to be 90% of the expats here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You idiot, take another hit of acid. She would first have a B.A, then a B.Ed, and then a M.Ed (masters in education) You cannot get any of these out of the order I showed them. Do you think those qualifications are so rare for teachers? Additionally, when people specialize in education, they get other specialties, sometimes called ABQ's (additional basic qualifications) and known differently in different places.

You get a B.A, then you may get your teaching certification, you certainly aren’t going to go back, complete another bachelors in Education after finishing you BA. Do you know anything?

You may do your B. Ed, which means your undergrad degree in education. All that means is you may get into a certification program easier than a non-Ed major,but you still have to be certified. A Masters has no bearing on teaching. You cannot teach with just a Bachelors and a Masters. Because along with teaching certification is an in depth background check to make sure you aren’t a pedo or criminal.


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All a Masters will do is improve your salary or job status, but none of that is relevant without certification.


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NeverNude wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 7:52 pm All a Masters will do is improve your salary or job status, but none of that is relevant without certification.


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What are you going on and on about? You seem to want to argue aimlessly.

Every country is different. Apparently, RB's country is different than yours, which--by the way--we really don't know about since you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable (but partially wrong) about US licensure.

For example, in the US, you do need a teacher's license. However, in the USA in most states, you also need a master's degree. Some people go for an MAT, some go for an M.Ed. At PSU, I went through the GTEP program. You can look it up if you're interested.

I got my certification in Reading (Reading Specialist) in 24 credit hours (graduate level), and it's for use at the secondary level. The reading specialization is not a special ed. issue. Many people struggle with reading.

Since I've formally retired, I am certified under a professional license. I just did a license look-up through TSPC (you'll know what that is, I'm sure).

NeverNude wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 7:50 pm

RickyBobby wrote:

NeverNude wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 10:48 am

Cinnamoncat wrote: Like Stroppychops, I have an M.Ed. and have taught English in the States for many years, primarily literature and writing. I'm a Reading Specialist too, which means graduate studies in that.

You can’t teach in the States without a teaching certification. Also, Reading Specialist would either be another specific teaching certification, or it would be a part of an M. Special Ed. Not M. Ed. Not sure what “which means graduate studies in that” means.

Not saying schools in Cambodia wouldn’t give someone that job and title, but it is annoying seeing people BS about their qualifications which seems to be 90% of the expats here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You idiot, take another hit of acid. She would first have a B.A, then a B.Ed, and then a M.Ed (masters in education) You cannot get any of these out of the order I showed them. Do you think those qualifications are so rare for teachers? Additionally, when people specialize in education, they get other specialties, sometimes called ABQ's (additional basic qualifications) and known differently in different places.

You get a B.A, then you may get your teaching certification, you certainly aren’t going to go back, complete another bachelors in Education after finishing you BA. Do you know anything?

You may do your B. Ed, which means your undergrad degree in education. All that means is you may get into a certification program easier than a non-Ed major,but you still have to be certified. A Masters has no bearing on teaching. You cannot teach with just a Bachelors and a Masters. Because along with teaching certification is an in depth background check to make sure you aren’t a pedo or criminal.


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When I went to Teachers college, it was a one year program that delivered a B.Ed. To be accepted, you needed to have already completed your B.A.

Many teachers optioned to get further specialties and go for their masters, especially if they wanted to become administration.

No one would have had a masters in Education if they didn't already have their B.Ed.

For what it's worth, not that I am saying it applies to teaching, sometimes one can gain a Master's in an area of expertise without first completing a BA, BSc, etc within the same area. It depends on the nature of the course. For example, it is possible to gain an MSc in Environmental Impact Assessment even if a person gained a BA in an unrelated subject.

violet wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am For what it's worth, not that I am saying it applies to teaching, sometimes one can gain a Master's in an area of expertise without first completing a BA, BSc, etc within the same area. It depends on the nature of the course. For example, it is possible to gain an MSc in Environmental Impact Assessment even if a person gained a BA in an unrelated subject.

Yes, sure, but any masters degree is built upon a Bachelors degree first.

Doing a Masters without a Bachelor degree
Posted on 16/12/2015 by Southern Cross University Online

Postgraduate study usually requires a Bachelor degree as a prerequisite – but if you haven’t completed an undergraduate degree, earning a Masters qualification isn’t out of the question.

Here’s how to get your Masters without a previous undergraduate degree.
1. Leverage your professional experience

At Southern Cross University Online, you can use your professional experience to do an online Masters degree without having completed a Bachelor degree.

If you have five years’ experience in a relevant field or other qualifications that are equivalent to a Bachelor degree, you could be eligible to study at a postgraduate level without an undergraduate degree. And, if you have extensive professional experience (seven years and over), you could receive credit or ‘Advanced Standing’ towards achieving your postgraduate qualification. Entry requirements and advanced standing does vary from course to course, so it’s best to speak with one of our Enrolment Advisors about

Entry requirements and advanced standing do vary from course to course, so it’s best to speak with one of our Student Enrolment Advisors on 1300 589 882 to learn more about your preferred course.https://online.scu.edu.au/blog/can-post ... bachelors/

Southern Cross University Online

Great example. An online university from Australia. What's the accreditation like there?

I'm sure I could find a Phd. program from a Tunisian university that'll accept Elementary school grads.

Cinnamon Cat is an American, presumably we're talking American graduate school programs

Acceptance into an accredited American graduate school program worth it's salt requires taking and receiving a competitive score on the GMAT or GRE exam. The traditional track to perusing a Masters degree is to have an undergraduate degree prior to taking the exam.

If you're unaware of what these exams are then you probably shouldn't be adding your sixpence to this conversations anyway.

For Fucks Sake. What is this, a "Who knows more about Masters degree program certifications?" contest.

I don't really care to attempt any comprehension as to what you dilholes are talking about but as an American who is familiar with our educational system...

...Cinnamon Cat's degrees and certifications are impressive and beyond reproach...I don't know what the purpose of this conversation is...

... but please continue....it's so stimulating.

Brody wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 10:06 am

Southern Cross University Online

Great example. An online university from Australia. What's the accreditation like there?

I'm sure I could find a Phd. program from a Tunisian university that'll accept Elementary school grads.

Cinnamon Cat is an American, presumably we're talking American graduate school programs

Acceptance into an accredited American graduate school program worth it's salt requires taking and receiving a competitive score on the GMAT or GRE exam. The traditional track to perusing a Masters degree is to have an undergraduate degree prior to taking the exam.

If you're unaware of what these exams are then you probably shouldn't be adding your sixpence to this conversations anyway.

For Fucks Sake. What is this, a "Who knows more about Masters degree program certifications?" contest.

I don't really care to attempt any comprehension as to what you dilholes are talking about but as an American who is familiar with our educational system...

...Cinnamon Cat's degrees and certifications are impressive and beyond reproach...I don't know what the purpose of this conversation is...

... but please continue....it's so stimulating.

I was just pointing out that it is possible to get a masters if you do not possess a first degree. My reply was to this:

RickyBobby wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 7:02 am

violet wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 6:59 am For what it's worth, not that I am saying it applies to teaching, sometimes one can gain a Master's in an area of expertise without first completing a BA, BSc, etc within the same area. It depends on the nature of the course. For example, it is possible to gain an MSc in Environmental Impact Assessment even if a person gained a BA in an unrelated subject.

Yes, sure, but any masters degree is built upon a Bachelors degree first.

I was merely pointing out that it is possible to obtain a masters without first obtaining a first degree. The cut and paste was merely a quick illustration.

In Australia relevant work experience can count in some instances. A person that was on the same Masters course in Public Health as I had a first degree in Chemical Engineering but was accepted because he had work experience as a nurse. A women I worked with had no first degree but got a masters in primary health care because of her extensive work in that field.

I don't see why you feel the need for an invective reply and cannot give a polite response. You are really sounding like a Bogun, rather than someone with some level of education.