Too many people dying young

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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by John Bingham » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:47 pm

Cambodia isn't a drug producer, it is however a major conduit where drugs can be distributed through easily enough because of the often lax drug enforcement. The drugs come mainly from Myanmar via Laos. Heroin and Meth - both crystal and pills. A certain amount of coke seems to arrive by air from South America via various West African / middle Eastern stop-offs. I've heard the glitterati here have a thing for coke but I'd imagine most is destined for neighboring countries, many of which have very heavy laws on narcotics. There isn't a huge market for heroin here either and most is intended for export. It's not in a smuggler's interest to have something adulterated, the volume has to be kept as low as possible. So it's not like Manchester, Dublin, Sydney or wherever where the drug will have been stepped on multiple times and so have low purity (and they might even bump up the strength then with Fentanyl etc). We are near the source, the stuff comes in branded slabs and the buyers have testing kits and bodyguards. An evil trade but where there's a market there's always someone willing to make some easy money.
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Re: American Kyle Robert Mills, 25, Dies in Siem Reap Hotel

Post by Hotdigr » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:51 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:35 pm
Hotdigr wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:00 pm
Anchor Moy wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:39 pm
Hotdigr wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:50 pm
Rogue wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:04 pm

It's more likely heroin which sellers are selling as coke.
This has been an urban myth for SO long here. IF you have ever had coke and heroin, there is absolutely no way you can confuse the two. JB got it right again - what kills people here is the fact that the hammer is so much purer than anything they have ever had, its OD territory straight away. When almost 100% pure hammer is available so cheaply, why would you cut it or substitute it with the more expensive and much harder to procure, (over here) Fanta? Just another load of bollocks from the local forum "experts".
Isn't the urban myth the story that heroin is sold as cocaine to people who are geographically challenged ? (ie.Cocaine is not produced in SEA and has to be transported from South America.) I can believe that some westerners think that they will score cocaine in Cambodia like they do at home, but the tuktuk dealer or whoever gives them heroin because that's what they've got.
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Mate, if you have ever tried either of them even once, you really can't mistake one for the other. Seriously. That's why I believe its an urban myth. There may have been the very odd instance of it, but just NO as an ongoing thing - in my opinion only mind you. But I have yet to meet (or read a media interview with) anyone that's said basically " Yeah, we scored some coke last night, turned out to be hammer. Me mate OD'd and died from it". And lets face it, coke is a social drug, a party drug. Groups of people tend to do it together and party. If you are into hammer, its more a stay at home and nod drug. Most deaths I have read about tend to be single people alone in a room. Again - just my opinion, but I know a little about this subject also.
Its not a myth mate
I think that's the exception to the rule mate and it proves my point also. How often do you read of 2 people dying over here from that mistake. I can remember reading about 2 deaths only twice ( coincidentally, both in Kampot) and in neither one was coke or heroin mentioned. The first was the 2 guys that died from what was reportedly "bad" MDMA ( yeah, I know. I think they knew exactly what they were taking). The second the 2 girls from "bad" prescription drugs. I repeat what I said - if you are buying coke, you are usually sharing it with friends. If its China White, then more then one of you is going to drop. MOST ( not all,I never said ALL) of the OD's we read about are single ( usually blokes) in their hotel room. That is heroin behaviour NOT coke behaviour. And to whoever it was that said Fentanyl is here and cheap - I never said it wasn't. But I can guarantee you, over here, where we border 2 of the "Golden Triangle" countries its not as cheap as the best hammer. You cut to increase profit, not decrease profit.
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by Barang chgout » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:02 am

John Bingham wrote:Where is there any evidence that Fentanyl is involved? As far as I know the Heroin sold here is very pure China white, and far stronger than anything available in the west. That's enough on its own.
No.
I have it from someone who knows these things.
The smack on the street here is lower grade than the smack in Oz.
True story.

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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by Beerinthemorning » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:14 am

Barang chgout wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:02 am
John Bingham wrote:Where is there any evidence that Fentanyl is involved? As far as I know the Heroin sold here is very pure China white, and far stronger than anything available in the west. That's enough on its own.
No.
I have it from someone who knows these things.
The smack on the street here is lower grade than the smack in Oz.
True story.

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The smack is probly safer than that 2000 riel beer they sell in the street.
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:53 am

Purity is based on how close u are to the original source, you wont see coke anywhere near 75% on the street an usually closer to 50%
this goes for Coke or smack,( NO tuk turk driver is selling quality china white) :please:
mdma, ecstasy both come over from Holland, usually in powder form
YaBa is made in nearby Myanmar and comes overland to thailand and onwards
in fact many of the labs have stopped making heroin cause yaba is cheaper and more profitable

Smack is much cheaper here than average coke, anything a tourist buys on the street is susceptible to what it is, (smack cut with rat poison).

i know hospitals are equipped to do drug tests, but.....
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by explorer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:30 am

How can people be warned?
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by Arget » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:33 am

Easy answer....................... don't do drugs........ =@
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by John Bingham » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:47 am

Barang chgout wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:02 am
John Bingham wrote:Where is there any evidence that Fentanyl is involved? As far as I know the Heroin sold here is very pure China white, and far stronger than anything available in the west. That's enough on its own.
No.
I have it from someone who knows these things.
The smack on the street here is lower grade than the smack in Oz.
True story.
That makes no sense. True story.
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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by Barang chgout » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:04 am

John Bingham wrote:
Barang chgout wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:02 am
John Bingham wrote:Where is there any evidence that Fentanyl is involved? As far as I know the Heroin sold here is very pure China white, and far stronger than anything available in the west. That's enough on its own.
No.
I have it from someone who knows these things.
The smack on the street here is lower grade than the smack in Oz.
True story.
That makes no sense. True story.
Ask a junkie.
True story.

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Re: Too many people dying young

Post by John Bingham » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:09 am

Never trust a junkie.
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