Is it time to go home?

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michael.stewart1 wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:38 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm is it time for me to go home?
I shouldnt have to put up with this shit , im not from a third world shithole.

english teaching sucks , for real, it pays pennies and they are racist.

the two pensioners I tutor just wanna talk about how they hate china and hate foreigners and tell me up front they tolerate us but dont want us living here.

they pretty much pay me to tell me how they hate immigrants.

the bosses are nitpicky and bitchy they love to have a white foreigner under there thumb.
That is odd when I was in China they seemed to like me. I also can speak Chinese and I am enthralled by Chinese culture and I love Xi Jingping. I agree that teaching is boring but as long as they are paying me a paycheck that is all I care. I will eventually save enough to build my lab in the Amazon Rainforest.
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Not sure you will understand this michael, have a guess.
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That is odd when I was in China they seemed to like me. I also can speak Chinese and I am enthralled by Chinese culture and I love Xi Jingping. I agree that teaching is boring but as long as they are paying me a paycheck that is all I care. I will eventually save enough to build my lab in the Amazon Rainforest.
well the thrall and paycheck part are obvious.
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Xi is dismantling all the protections placed by Deng to prevent another Mao dictatorship cult from ever occurring. Funny they should be both praised in the same posting.
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Beerinthemorning wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm is it time for me to go home?
I shouldnt have to put up with this shit , im not from a third world shithole.

english teaching sucks , for real, it pays pennies and they are racist.

the two pensioners I tutor just wanna talk about how they hate china and hate foreigners and tell me up front they tolerate us but dont want us living here.

they pretty much pay me to tell me how they hate immigrants.

the bosses are nitpicky and bitchy they love to have a white foreigner under there thumb.
so that cambodia flag associated with your profile is misleading and not your real self. What is your real ethnicity and looks ?
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Can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but going back to the original post, it mentions the racism here.

Yes, there is racism here. As white, non natives, we're treated differently in many aspects of society here. For example, we're generally paid more, in some cases, a lot more, than native people, for doing exactly the same job. Surely that's racism? Being paid a different salary based purely on the colour of your skin?

But we seem to accept this form of racism. That kind of racism is OK. Funny that. Yet when we're asked to pay a bit more on the odd occasion we want to visit Ankor Wat, or take a boat trip down the river, no, that form of racism is not OK.

But we can't have it both ways. We can't pick and choose what kind of racism is OK and which isn't. Either all forms of racism are bad, in which case, speak to your boss about being paid the same as a native, or we accept the status quo and STFU.
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michael.stewart1 wrote: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:38 pm
Beerinthemorning wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm is it time for me to go home?
I shouldnt have to put up with this shit , im not from a third world shithole.

english teaching sucks , for real, it pays pennies and they are racist.

the two pensioners I tutor just wanna talk about how they hate china and hate foreigners and tell me up front they tolerate us but dont want us living here.

they pretty much pay me to tell me how they hate immigrants.

the bosses are nitpicky and bitchy they love to have a white foreigner under there thumb.
That is odd when I was in China they seemed to like me.
It's not really odd, because despite your sometimes eccentric posts you seem like a pleasant and positive chap. The OP comes across as someone who thinks the world owes him a living and is consistently negative and antagonistic about local people and foreign residents. Then he gets surprised when he gets a less than wonderful reception. :lol:
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xandreu wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:49 pm Can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but going back to the original post, it mentions the racism here.

Yes, there is racism here. As white, non natives, we're treated differently in many aspects of society here. For example, we're generally paid more, in some cases, a lot more, than native people, for doing exactly the same job. Surely that's racism? Being paid a different salary based purely on the colour of your skin?

But we seem to accept this form of racism. That kind of racism is OK. Funny that. Yet when we're asked to pay a bit more on the odd occasion we want to visit Ankor Wat, or take a boat trip down the river, no, that form of racism is not OK.

But we can't have it both ways. We can't pick and choose what kind of racism is OK and which isn't. Either all forms of racism are bad, in which case, speak to your boss about being paid the same as a native, or we accept the status quo and STFU.
I can see that you are making an interesting point here, mate, but I have to mention 2 comments that you made.

" For example, we're generally paid more, in some cases, a lot more, than native people, for doing exactly the same job. Surely that's racism?"

First part is true. I have taught in SE Asia for over 20 years now and the point you make can create racism from the locals to us, but the statement you make is simply not the definition of racism.

"Being paid a different salary based purely on the colour of your skin? "

Of course not. We, as native speakers are paid more because we have a knowledge of our language that, sadly, many local teachers are lacking. We are paid for our ability, not the colour of our skin.

As I said though, you have brought up an interesting topic and I can see what you mean.
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bobsboots wrote:
xandreu wrote: Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:49 pm Can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but going back to the original post, it mentions the racism here.

Yes, there is racism here. As white, non natives, we're treated differently in many aspects of society here. For example, we're generally paid more, in some cases, a lot more, than native people, for doing exactly the same job. Surely that's racism? Being paid a different salary based purely on the colour of your skin?

But we seem to accept this form of racism. That kind of racism is OK. Funny that. Yet when we're asked to pay a bit more on the odd occasion we want to visit Ankor Wat, or take a boat trip down the river, no, that form of racism is not OK.

But we can't have it both ways. We can't pick and choose what kind of racism is OK and which isn't. Either all forms of racism are bad, in which case, speak to your boss about being paid the same as a native, or we accept the status quo and STFU.
I can see that you are making an interesting point here, mate, but I have to mention 2 comments that you made.

" For example, we're generally paid more, in some cases, a lot more, than native people, for doing exactly the same job. Surely that's racism?"

First part is true. I have taught in SE Asia for over 20 years now and the point you make can create racism from the locals to us, but the statement you make is simply not the definition of racism.

"Being paid a different salary based purely on the colour of your skin? "

Of course not. We, as native speakers are paid more because we have a knowledge of our language that, sadly, many local teachers are lacking. We are paid for our ability, not the colour of our skin.

As I said though, you have brought up an interesting topic and I can see what you mean.
Paid only because of ability? Then why the pay discrepancy between native English speakers who are caucasian and those that are non-Caucasian?

The ideal look in Asia is Caucasian. White skin, large round eyes, preferably blonde hair, blue eyes. Those closer a foreigner is to this ideal, the better the treatment.

Not racism at all. Because Asians are never racist. CCTV teaches us that universal truth.
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