Those of you with kids that were born here
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Mr. Yan wrote:My Khmer girlfriend is pregnant and is due in a few months. We are both very excited, but I am also a little nervous about the differences between birthing a baby here versus a western country. Obviously there is no shortage of kids here so I'm confident that it will be fine, but at the same time I'm wondering if there is anything specific that I should worry about, look for specifically, or prepare for. We live in Sihanoukville, so the baby will be born here. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thanks.
In 15 or 16 years time when you are ripping your hair out with frustration [ if you have any ] over a teenager rebellion syndrome , you will be thinking having a baby was no problem at all.
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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Thanks for the input, all good things to hear. We plan on getting the kid on the breast for sure. Of course we will be sure to bundle up my girlfriend after birth so she gets her heat back too, along with all of the other customary post birth procedures.
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Beware of frivolous c-sections here. The doctors love them. More money, and they get to go home early. And also be careful of traditional post-natal procedures. Not all are safe and healthy. I went along with traditional procedures (mittens, hats, coats, cotton in the ears, crazy pepper diets, etc) so long they were either helpful or didn't make a difference. I drew the line at potentially harmful traditional procedures like roasting the woman and alcohol consumption. The diet the women go on after birth isn't particularly good either, but not so much that I protested it. And when they put a knife in the bassinet with the baby to protect it from roaming spirits, try to make sure it's out of the baby's reach, though those little mittens make it pretty hard to grab the knife.
Breast is definitely best, but doesn't always work as planned. Do it if you can. Don't sweat it too much if you can't.
Breast is definitely best, but doesn't always work as planned. Do it if you can. Don't sweat it too much if you can't.
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Like bracelets made of lead.LTO wrote:I drew the line at potentially harmful traditional procedures . . . . .
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Can you explain more about the roasting and alcohol and post-birth diet?LTO wrote:Beware of frivolous c-sections here. The doctors love them. More money, and they get to go home early. And also be careful of traditional post-natal procedures. Not all are safe and healthy. I went along with traditional procedures (mittens, hats, coats, cotton in the ears, crazy pepper diets, etc) so long they were either helpful or didn't make a difference. I drew the line at potentially harmful traditional procedures like roasting the woman and alcohol consumption. The diet the women go on after birth isn't particularly good either, but not so much that I protested it. And when they put a knife in the bassinet with the baby to protect it from roaming spirits, try to make sure it's out of the baby's reach, though those little mittens make it pretty hard to grab the knife.
Breast is definitely best, but doesn't always work as planned. Do it if you can. Don't sweat it too much if you can't.
Is the knife thing real? Shit.
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Yes, the knife (or scissors) are real, though usually out of reach.
Roasting or baking the woman is done more in the countryside than in the city, though some still do it here. It involves putting the woman's bed over a heat source and covering her up for an extended period, basically to cause he body temperature to rise. There is also the practice of feeding the mother a quantity of alcohol (not sure how much, but enough to feel it and more), usually rice wine or something similar, shortly after birth. The idea behind both practices, as I understand it, is to restore balance between hot and cold in the woman's body - heat having been lost in the process of birth (per this particular theory of medicine.) This is also why you see post-natal mothers wearing parkas and wholly caps in 35C heat.
Diet after birth is also sometimes based on the same theory - the restoration of heat to the body. For example, you may find her eating fried pork smothered in piles of black pepper, sometimes to the exclusion of most other foods.
I remember taunting my wife with pizza, which I know she loves. She'd been eating pepper pork for a week or more, and I sat there in front of her eating a pizza with excessive glee. She resisted and resisted and finally broke down and had a piece. Then she felt worried and guilty. Next day, midday, she returned from the market and said she had bad news. She said she told the old women (i.e. the ultimate source of knowledge on birth related issues) what she had done (i.e. eat pizza) and they said that she may very well die. I told her I agreed with the old women, that should would surely die. She gasped and asked how long I thought she had. I told her in all seriousness, "probably no more than 60 or 70 years."
Roasting or baking the woman is done more in the countryside than in the city, though some still do it here. It involves putting the woman's bed over a heat source and covering her up for an extended period, basically to cause he body temperature to rise. There is also the practice of feeding the mother a quantity of alcohol (not sure how much, but enough to feel it and more), usually rice wine or something similar, shortly after birth. The idea behind both practices, as I understand it, is to restore balance between hot and cold in the woman's body - heat having been lost in the process of birth (per this particular theory of medicine.) This is also why you see post-natal mothers wearing parkas and wholly caps in 35C heat.
Diet after birth is also sometimes based on the same theory - the restoration of heat to the body. For example, you may find her eating fried pork smothered in piles of black pepper, sometimes to the exclusion of most other foods.
I remember taunting my wife with pizza, which I know she loves. She'd been eating pepper pork for a week or more, and I sat there in front of her eating a pizza with excessive glee. She resisted and resisted and finally broke down and had a piece. Then she felt worried and guilty. Next day, midday, she returned from the market and said she had bad news. She said she told the old women (i.e. the ultimate source of knowledge on birth related issues) what she had done (i.e. eat pizza) and they said that she may very well die. I told her I agreed with the old women, that should would surely die. She gasped and asked how long I thought she had. I told her in all seriousness, "probably no more than 60 or 70 years."
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It sure is. Usually it's under the pillow.Cam Nivag wrote:Is the knife thing real? Shit.
Then there's "How to cure the babies hiccups".
Simply by placing a small twig or similar on the babies forehead.
[Disclaimer: I'm pretty sure it was hiccups, but it may have been how to cure something else] [Oh, and Yes, of course it worked ]
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There's some kind of concoction made out of chopped up herbs or roots or whatever that are left to infuse in alcohol for a few weeks. Women drink it a bit after the birth, but not in huge quantities as far as I know. It tastes ok.
I think the knife/sharp object under the pillow is to cut the string that ties people to the ghost world. Or something.
I think the knife/sharp object under the pillow is to cut the string that ties people to the ghost world. Or something.
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this is what i love about cambodian culture, it is so different and they have all their strange but fascinating beliefs
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Unreal;LTO wrote:Yes, the knife (or scissors) are real, though usually out of reach.
Roasting or baking the woman is done more in the countryside than in the city, though some still do it here. It involves putting the woman's bed over a heat source and covering her up for an extended period, basically to cause he body temperature to rise. There is also the practice of feeding the mother a quantity of alcohol (not sure how much, but enough to feel it and more), usually rice wine or something similar, shortly after birth. The idea behind both practices, as I understand it, is to restore balance between hot and cold in the woman's body - heat having been lost in the process of birth (per this particular theory of medicine.) This is also why you see post-natal mothers wearing parkas and wholly caps in 35C heat.
Diet after birth is also sometimes based on the same theory - the restoration of heat to the body. For example, you may find her eating fried pork smothered in piles of black pepper, sometimes to the exclusion of most other foods.
I remember taunting my wife with pizza, which I know she loves. She'd been eating pepper pork for a week or more, and I sat there in front of her eating a pizza with excessive glee. She resisted and resisted and finally broke down and had a piece. Then she felt worried and guilty. Next day, midday, she returned from the market and said she had bad news. She said she told the old women (i.e. the ultimate source of knowledge on birth related issues) what she had done (i.e. eat pizza) and they said that she may very well die. I told her I agreed with the old women, that should would surely die. She gasped and asked how long I thought she had. I told her in all seriousness, "probably no more than 60 or 70 years."
ur better off having a kid in Thailand where none of this happens and that was 21 years ago when my daughter was born
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