juansweetpotato wrote:

PSD-Kiwi wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote: But the actual riflemen and target painters are actually in US air force bases in the US. .

Riflemen are infantrymen...ground soldiers, the guys who actually fight,and win, battles.

Target painters need to be in close proximity to the intended target in order to laser "paint" the actual target.

So NO...they are not based in bases thousands of miles away. However, the final decision makers and the UAV pilots, navigators and trigger pullers are.

If you're gonna pretend to know what you're talking about, do a little research first!

I take it you haven't watched the movie either? The language I use is from the movie. And according to it, the laser painters sit beside the gunner in the cockpit so to speak. I have no practical experience in this stuff. One hopes that the movie got at least those details right.

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:No offence PSD, but mandatory military service has been proven to be a failure in most cases. It's expensive, saps resources and more importantly, doesn't field a professional army. That show "Every Singaporean Son" was cringe-worthy at best and a perfect example of how military service isn't for everyone. I only watched a few bits, but those guys were downright pussies and would get eaten alive in no time by professional soldiers (no offence to bolueeleh, who was obviously not just doing his one year or whatever it is).

CJM555 wrote:

bolueeleh wrote:

PSD-Kiwi wrote:I don’t believe that any time spent in the armed forces are wasted.

i thought i served a country that will take care of me but it turned out singapore is "made" for big corporations to do business in, that is why recent years there have been lots of resentment and exodus.

wasted in terms of i served with a wrong conviction but i learned discipline and camaraderie, so in that sense i learned something.

like a lot of statements i read on FB or on internet by US servicemen, they would die for their brothers in arm but not for their country, that is exactly how i feel.

What type of UAV's did you fly during your service ?
Do you not go back and attend annual events or anything like that even with your fellow countryman or have you broke off all communications.
Just the other week, Singapore put on a cracking Air Show.

Rutiger wrote:Although, if literally EVERYONE had to do complusory military service with no exceptions, it would make knobjockey politicians who are so willing to wrap themselves in a flag with false patriotism and start unnecessary wars think twice about their military policies. It's a problem that military grunts are almost exclusively poor, young, lower class people and only they carry the burden of actual warfare. It's easy to send other people kids to die in a war.

I'm not in favor of mandatory military service either, but it does give every parent more of a personal stake in military decisions, not just the poor ones, and therefore making uncalledfor military actions less likely.

bolueeleh wrote:

Rutiger wrote:Although, if literally EVERYONE had to do complusory military service with no exceptions, it would make knobjockey politicians who are so willing to wrap themselves in a flag with false patriotism and start unnecessary wars think twice about their military policies. It's a problem that military grunts are almost exclusively poor, young, lower class people and only they carry the burden of actual warfare. It's easy to send other people kids to die in a war.

I'm not in favor of mandatory military service either, but it does give every parent more of a personal stake in military decisions, not just the poor ones, and therefore making uncalledfor military actions less likely.

the problem with small country like singapore is that our population is too small, so conscription is necessary

bolueeleh wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote:

PSD-Kiwi wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote: But the actual riflemen and target painters are actually in US air force bases in the US. .

Riflemen are infantrymen...ground soldiers, the guys who actually fight,and win, battles.

Target painters need to be in close proximity to the intended target in order to laser "paint" the actual target.

So NO...they are not based in bases thousands of miles away. However, the final decision makers and the UAV pilots, navigators and trigger pullers are.

If you're gonna pretend to know what you're talking about, do a little research first!

I take it you haven't watched the movie either? The language I use is from the movie. And according to it, the laser painters sit beside the gunner in the cockpit so to speak. I have no practical experience in this stuff. One hopes that the movie got at least those details right.

there are basically few types of UAVs, some are just surveillance UAV equipped with laser, IR scanner, some are counter electronic, equip with scanners, jammers etc, some are communication relay, some are hot UAVs equip with weapons.

in some scenarios, we cant get special ops into the area to paint the target, so while the waiting for the hot UAVs to come, the surveillance UAV "paint" the target, but usually the hot UAVs can paint the targets itself.