The grass is never greener: As Phnom Penh booms, green spaces are cut back

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Re: The grass is never greener: As Phnom Penh booms, green spaces are cut back

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apart from the dictator having a fetish about lining his off shore bank accounts the other reason for this is that he doesnt want any spaces for protesters to gather
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also when there is green space, it seems to be badly modeled on the lawns of versaille
hardly any cover
crazy in this climate

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John Bingham wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:34 pm
BklynBoy wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:45 am Saw this article on twitter the other day. Are there parks in PP?? like where kids/adults can play games.. Basketball ,football,handball ( yes, american sports). In NYC, if you go to any local school there is a yard where people can play
There aren't any parks that would compare in any way with, say, Central Park, Lumbini Park, Regent's Park or Phoenix Park. There are just a few small ones like the one in front of Wat Botum, the verges between Independence Monument and Naga 1, the Riverside and around Wat Phnom.
It's terrible compared to other cities.
Those are good examples but I was thinking of something much smaller. In NYC there are elementary - High School schools and attached to them.. there would be a park. Maybe for running, playing basketball or handball. Maybe thats unreasonable because those are American sports? I know there is a stretch of grass where they do the exercising and dancing by the water near Riverside. Just thinking of somewhere where kids can play
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The one actual exception to that is national schools, they usually have big gardens in varying states of repair. It's illegal to sell school grounds or pagoda grounds. A lot of things are illegal but these laws seem to be respected.
There is one fantastic one in the city my son plays in sometimes and it also has the biggest patch of real grass in miles. These places are not public though, and access is often restricted. The same goes for the National Stadium (Olympic), it's been cleaned up a lot but is often closed off. The other option that most use is private astroturf pitches for 5 a side football (soccer) or volleyball, these are usually covered and have small cafes attached. Groups who want to play just turn up at a slot or when it's quiet and there's space available. They do at least afford shelter from sun/rain, it's no fun getting burned or drowned. 8-)
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If you made a park with trees and grass, the little bastards on their mopeds would still race through it on their way to and from school.

It's the boys I am referring to, the girls are much more sensible and ride with at least a modicum of caution, albeit with 3 onboard and not a crash helmet in sight...

HEALTH WARNING... If anyone walks along Norodom between 184 and 214 on the east side, you are right outside Chaktomuk High School. I strongly urge you to walk in a straight line. The kids use the pavement as if it were the road and come at you form all directions including the rear, so steer a straight path or you might end up with a moped up your arse. All this is done in plain view of the stupid police officers on traffic patrol at each corner.
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There used to be an incredibly beautiful area/park near Canadia Industrial Park off of Veng Sreng Street. It had a beautiful lake, which had cute walkways directly through some portions of the lake, a few seating huts above the lake which were accessible via a walkway, shitloads of trees and huge potted flowers, about a dozen King Cobras in a cage, ducks, fish, even some concessions vendors for snacks, and well, just about everything for an incredibly relaxing time. You could walk around the entire lake. It was wonderful, emphasis on 'was'.

Pretty much only the locals/factory workers knew of it. I was lucky to have been introduced to it by an ex gf.

But, thanks to the aforementioned lack of regulation in planning, the fucking Chinese assholes came and completely ruined it, and have come in with earth movers, filled in the entire lake, cut down many of the trees, and have begun building a multi unit development on the land.

Pissed me off, and still does.
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Of course this is all true and sad but this is easily reachable with a bicycle in 50 minutes.
Try that in other citiesImage
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BklynBoy wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:45 am Saw this article on twitter the other day. Are there parks in PP?? like where kids/adults can play games.. Basketball ,football,handball ( yes, american sports). In NYC, if you go to any local school there is a yard where people can play
You know who else did a great job of building public parks and spaces? The Soviets. Most major cities in Russia and the former republics have a lot of great green (or grey) public space.
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King Keil wrote:Of course this is all true and sad but this is easily reachable with a bicycle in 50 minutes.
Try that in other citiesImage
Most cities where I come from have something like that in very central areas in the city itself.
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