Thailand "Most Dangerous Tourist Destination"

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Re: Thailand

Post by yong » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:15 pm

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Ok, I must admit! The traffic in Thailand is ridiculous. The worst I have seen in the world. But somehow, it does not make me feel unsave, even when a tuk tuk driver drives like an idiot. I don't have to drive to work every day and affoid trafic as much as i can.
For me feeling unsafe is because crime and violance, and in that i feel much much more unsave in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, Egypt or Mexico than in Bangkok.

I want to move to Cambodia and it seems to me that outside PP the traffic in Cambodia is very outdatet but extreemly unsave. Just be very carefull. It is not the Netherlands or Schweden, the most save countries in the world regarding traffic.
I am an expat in Thailand for past 13 years and I drive on Bangkok roads everyday I have to say like you I don't feel unsafe. Problem is with alcohol many drink and drive here in Thailand despite the tough law. Also agree with you feeling unsafe in crime and over here is ok and yes many European country in really unsafe, wife just got robbed in Vienna, yes Vienna, lost everything, passport, credit cards and money. Happened in January 17th in Vienna Station.
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Re: Thailand

Post by dron » Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:42 pm

There are feelings and there are cold hard facts. That's why anecdotal evidence isn't accepted by anyone studying anything seriously. Sometimes we remain unaware of things going around us or even deceive ourselves.

Automobile fatalities per 100,000 according to WHO:

Thailand 36.2
Cambodia 17.4
Austria 5.4

Crimes like robberies are more rare and they get a lot of attention basically everywhere. They even shock people. Meanwhile, auto accidents become a fact of life like cancer and don't get as much attention. The fact remains you're much more statistically likely to die on the road in Thailand than you would be in any other country in the world except Libya.
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Re: Thailand

Post by james1234 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:13 pm

james1234 wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:56 pm
I want to move to Cambodia and it seems to me that outside PP the traffic in Cambodia is very outdatet but extreemly unsave. Just be very carefull. It is not the Netherlands or Schweden, the most save countries in the world regarding traffic.
Should be:
I want to move to Cambodia and it seems to me that outside PP the traffic in Cambodia is very outdatet but NOT extreemly unsave.
Thailand 36.2
Cambodia 17.4
Austria 5.4
That is remarkeble! Thailand more than twice as dangerous than Cambodia :shock: ? But it confirms my opinion. trafic in PP is bad, but in the rest of the country not dangerous apart from the putholes and dust.
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Re: Thailand

Post by dron » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:18 pm

The murder rate per 100,000 is almost twice is high in Thailand too.

Thailand: 3.51
Cambodia: 1.84

Stats courtesy of UNODC.
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Re: Thailand

Post by james1234 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:13 pm

dron wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:18 pm
The murder rate per 100,000 is almost twice is high in Thailand too.

Thailand: 3.51
Cambodia: 1.84

Stats courtesy of UNODC.
Those numbers were not mentioned/considdered in the post: Cambodia or Thailand? I prefered Cambodia, although I like Thailand really a lot, maybe even more as tourist destination. But all together I prefer Cambodia to live and than travel to Thailand for vacation!
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Re: Thailand

Post by CEOCambodiaNews » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:06 am

Top Ten Riskiest Travel Destinations 2017
Think you’ve got your summer holiday plans all laid out? Well some statistics released by a UK insurance company might mean you want to have a rethink about where you’re heading off to.
Data released by Endsleigh has revealed the riskiest places for UK tourists to go on holiday, based on how many claims were made in 2017.
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Julia Alpan, head of marketing at Endsleigh, said: “Thailand is a popular destination for holiday-makers and backpackers, so it’s no surprise to see it revealed as the most dangerous location in the world to visit.

“Travelling in a foreign country is exciting, but there can be risks involved, particularly when you’re not familiar with the destination. As well as staying safe, it’s important to do your research ahead of your trip to make sure you’re covered with the correct travel insurance.

“Your insurance company will be able to provide you with full details of what you will and won’t be covered for on your policy, so make sure you’re aware of the full terms before you travel.”

Travellers should be aware that certain things can invalidate their insurance claims. For example, any injuries that occur while under the influence of drugs or alcohol won’t be included.

Nor will injuries that are self-inflicted, as in the case of diving into water off a cliff or jumping from a balcony. But that should just be common sense really.
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Re: Thailand

Post by Gilmore » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:49 pm

I first became aware of the dangers of Thailand while working as a travel writer in the Philippines. To counter the dangerous reputation that the Philippines holds, I checked the figures for foreigners murdered there and in Thailand and Cambodia in 2001. Results were Cambodia 1, Philippines 71, Thailand 247. Almost all victims were expats, not tourists. More than half the Thai murders were in Pattaya and Angeles City accounted for 1/3 of the murders there. The numbers weren't adjusted to account for expat or tourist numbers, but I think a clear inference can be drawn.
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Re: Thailand

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:43 pm

yong wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:15 pm
james1234 wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:56 pm
Ok, I must admit! The traffic in Thailand is ridiculous. The worst I have seen in the world. But somehow, it does not make me feel unsave, even when a tuk tuk driver drives like an idiot. I don't have to drive to work every day and affoid trafic as much as i can.
For me feeling unsafe is because crime and violance, and in that i feel much much more unsave in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, Egypt or Mexico than in Bangkok.

I want to move to Cambodia and it seems to me that outside PP the traffic in Cambodia is very outdatet but extreemly unsave. Just be very carefull. It is not the Netherlands or Schweden, the most save countries in the world regarding traffic.
I am an expat in Thailand for past 13 years and I drive on Bangkok roads everyday I have to say like you I don't feel unsafe. Problem is with alcohol many drink and drive here in Thailand despite the tough law. Also agree with you feeling unsafe in crime and over here is ok and yes many European country in really unsafe, wife just got robbed in Vienna, yes Vienna, lost everything, passport, credit cards and money. Happened in January 17th in Vienna Station.
i feel as safe her as anywhere and have been here a bit longer than 13 years. Have had 1 car accident,1 motorbike accident
Have had run ins with the local Mafia, (but was running a late night disco an they were trying to muscle in) and my house was robbed 2x ( both in Patong ages ago) and gotten into arguments with Thai's

as to driving
If you understand how thai's drive there is no problem, ( have done over 400,000 kms in this country)
The thing is you MUST, when driving, be always looking around you an use ur mirrors, drive defensively an offensively at all times.
Never assume cause the car or bike in front with his right turn signal on, his turning right.

IF u try and behave as u do back home or get shit faced drunk, yea, bad things can happen
If u drive a motorcycle drunk an have never driven one before, chances are good you will have an accident.
If u bad mouth a group of thai's or insult the king....yep, ur going to be attacked
If u take a ladyboy home and refuse to pay her ( him) cause u "thought" she/he was a girl, yep shit happens :plus1:

Dangerous.... try parts of La, london, New York, El Salvador etc etc.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: Thailand

Post by Jamie_Lambo » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:45 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:43 pm
Dangerous.... try parts of La, london, New York, El Salvador etc etc.
yeah i feel safer in Asia than i do in the UK



Figures show that a knife or blade was used in a crime every 16 minutes on average last year.

The number of incidents involving machetes has risen by more than 60% over the last 3 years in England and Wales according to Freedom of Information request responses from just over half of police forces. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-387522 ... or-younger
One machete crime every 90 minutes on Britain's streets http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... reets.html
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Re: Thailand

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:51 pm

i read lots of people being killed by groups of young kids with knives>
Initiation or??
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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