Stay away or die.

May be I missed something, but are there any stastistics about accidents or deaths?
I have done quite some travelling and for me Thailand and Cambodia were the most save countries I have ever been in! I am not a resort-traveler but travel around with bus, train, plane, car boat or any mean on tranport I can find. Been in Thailand many times and have not felt unsave at any moment. In the contrary!
But of course life can be dangerous: taking drugs, fucking streethookers, driving moto drunk but without licence or any experience, being disrespectfull to locals and so on! I see toursist behave like idiots and wonder why so little of them get accidents.
If you behave like a normal respectfull human being with common sence, I can not believe Thailand or Cambodia are unsave!

Individual embassies may well keep statistics with regard to their own citizens, but for me living here it's all about Thailand ranking right up there with the number of road deaths per head of the population annually. I could find Thailand ranking second worldwide in 2012 only behind Libya which was in civil war turmoil at the time. 36.2 people per 100,000 dying every year, another stat I saw was in 2015 80 people per day dying on Thailand's roads.

I went out shopping at 8am this morning and on a not particularly busy road in central Pattaya where traffic really can't travel that fast, 3 ambulances were in attendance to an accident that just happened, my friend came across an accident at 7am just round the corner on Friday on a wide open road with little traffic, 3 motorbikes and 4 bodies on the ground. I've personally known 4 expats killed on motorbikes in Pattaya in my time here. I used to have a 140km daily round trip to work and after 3 weeks of what i witnessed on the roads I decided to rent a place close to work and only travel home at weekends. I never travel by motorbike or minibus and rarely travel distances at night if I can avoid it. I drove around the country a lot last year and I don't think there was one trip where I didn't see several accidents being cleared up. I'm not paranoid as I travel a lot but I'm acutely aware of the dangers of road travel here and limit that danger as best I can. I'm not sure tourists are that aware of just how dangerous it is.

Personal safety walking around, visiting different places in Thailand I've never felt unsafe quite the opposite, I probably wouldn't live here if that was the case.

james1234 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:49 pm May be I missed something, but are there any stastistics about accidents or deaths?
I have done quite some travelling and for me Thailand and Cambodia were the most save countries I have ever been in! I am not a resort-traveler but travel around with bus, train, plane, car boat or any mean on tranport I can find. Been in Thailand many times and have not felt unsave at any moment. In the contrary!
But of course life can be dangerous: taking drugs, fucking streethookers, driving moto drunk but without licence or any experience, being disrespectfull to locals and so on! I see toursist behave like idiots and wonder why so little of them get accidents.
If you behave like a normal respectfull human being with common sence, I can not believe Thailand or Cambodia are unsave!

james1234 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:49 pm May be I missed something, but are there any stastistics about accidents or deaths?

Full Road Accident Statistics for New Year 2017-2018 in Thailand
December 30, 2017 Richard Barrow

It is now that time of year when the Thai government publicize the daily accident reports from around Thailand. This year, the “Seven Dangerous Days of the New Year” is from 28th December 2017 to 3rd January 2018. During the new year holiday last year, 478 people were killed in road accidents. The leading causes of accidents every year is drunk driving and speeding. Most accidents involve motorcycles.

7 Dangerous Days on Thailand’s Roads 2017-2018: 423 deaths (478 last year)
Day 1: 51 deaths (42 last year)
Day 2: 51 deaths (71 last year)
Day 3: 79 deaths (86 last year)
Day 4: 76 deaths (81 last year)
Day 5: 75 deaths (87 last year)
Day 6: 51 deaths (59 last year)
Day 7: 40 deaths (52 last year)

New Year Statistics for Past Years:

New Year 2010: 347 deaths, 3,827 injuries and 3,534 accidents
New Year 2011: 358 deaths, 3,750 injuries and 3,497 accidents
New Year 2012: 336 deaths, 3,375 injuries and 3,093 accidents
New Year 2013: 367 deaths, 3,329 injuries and 3,176 accidents
New Year 2014: 341 deaths, 3,117 injuries and 2,997 accidents
New Year 2015: 380 deaths, 3,505 injuries and 3,379 accidents
New Year 2016: 478 deaths, 4,068 injuries and 3,899 accidents
New Year 2017: 423 deaths, 4,005 injuries and 3,841 accidents
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2017/12/fu ... -thailand/

Despite government attempts to reduce the number of casualties, a seminar on road safety was told yesterday (Dec 11) that Thailand now tops the road death list on the World Atlas website. “The road death rate in Thailand is a matter of extreme concern as the country now ranks first, surpassing the deadliest country in the last survey, Libya,” Thaejing Siripanit, secretary-general of the Don’t Drive Drunk Foundation, told the seminar.

He was referring to rankings published in November by the website which gives appraisals on various topics, among them road safety.
World Atlas, which provides online information on travel, society, economics and environment, ranked 30 countries around the world.
Thailand’s estimated road traffic death rate (per 100,000 population) stands at 36.2 this year, followed by Malawi (35) and Liberia (33.7). African countries filled most top-10 slots.

The World Health Organisation, meanwhile, ranks Thailand as the second deadliest country, behind Libya from a survey of 180 countries.
The World Atlas ranking matches death cases in road accidents compiled by the foundation. Last year, up to 22,000 people, or an average of 50 to 60 people a day, died in car crashes, said Dr Thaejing.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/thailand- ... TGw4OQS.97


http://www.thairsc.com/eng/

"The World Health Organisation, meanwhile, ranks Thailand as the second deadliest country, behind Libya from a survey of 180 countries."

They're working on the number one spot. Give them some time.

As long as I am behind the wheel I love thai highways and their (cars) drivers. Most will check their mirrors for fast upcoming traffic and plenty will even signal their intention of staying in the fast lane so any approaching fast and furious can overtake them safely from the left.

One of the craziest moment I ever had there was when a fully loaded water melon cargo pickup raced me up to 200kh.
I believes Thais are the world’s #1 petrolheads, they will tune and customize anything that has wheels.

Got a tuk-tuk this morning who thought he was driving a McLaren. Close to 80 in the CBD, insane.

On the other hand, I saw a driver stop so as not to enter a junction that wasn't clear, and people stopped at a pedestrian crossing to let people across without a cop telling them to.

Ok, I must admit! The traffic in Thailand is ridiculous. The worst I have seen in the world. But somehow, it does not make me feel unsave, even when a tuk tuk driver drives like an idiot. I don't have to drive to work every day and affoid trafic as much as i can.
For me feeling unsafe is because crime and violance, and in that i feel much much more unsave in Amsterdam, Brussels, Paris, Egypt or Mexico than in Bangkok.

I want to move to Cambodia and it seems to me that outside PP the traffic in Cambodia is very outdatet but extreemly unsave. Just be very carefull. It is not the Netherlands or Schweden, the most save countries in the world regarding traffic.