Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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AndyKK wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:47 am
The point of the post is that it is the colour that as offended, and not the education or qualifications.
The school want white people BECAUSE the Khmer parents want this.
I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Even if that person is well enough educated, they still shouldn't teach cause it's not their native language?

That sounds very racist to me. If it doesn't to you, okay then? Are we done?
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littlelostgirl wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:13 pm
AndyKK wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:47 am
The point of the post is that it is the colour that as offended, and not the education or qualifications.
The school want white people BECAUSE the Khmer parents want this.
I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Even if that person is well enough educated, they still shouldn't teach cause it's not their native language?

That sounds very racist to me. If it doesn't to you, okay then? Are we done?
Yes we are done!
Being educated is not racist.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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littlelostgirl wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:13 pm
AndyKK wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:47 am
The point of the post is that it is the colour that as offended, and not the education or qualifications.
The school want white people BECAUSE the Khmer parents want this.
I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Even if that person is well enough educated, they still shouldn't teach cause it's not their native language?

That sounds very racist to me. If it doesn't to you, okay then? Are we done?
I think maybe the Filipino English teacher was speaking/teaching Queens English and not American English and so PR felt the pronunciation incorrect. When I was in the USA for a while in the "80's everyone I came in contact with mispronounced English. :D :stir:

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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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Kuroneko wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:34 pm
littlelostgirl wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:13 pm
AndyKK wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:47 am
The point of the post is that it is the colour that as offended, and not the education or qualifications.
The school want white people BECAUSE the Khmer parents want this.
I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Even if that person is well enough educated, they still shouldn't teach cause it's not their native language?

That sounds very racist to me. If it doesn't to you, okay then? Are we done?
I think maybe the Filipino English teacher was speaking/teaching Queens English and not American English and so PR felt the pronunciation incorrect. When I was in the USA for a while in the "80's everyone I came in contact with mispronounced English. :D :stir:

Yes I understand what you are saying! I am English, so what side of the fence am I on with English education.
About the racism side..........If in a western country there are laws on racism. Here I myself and even my Khmer lady are a minority, but do you hear me calling the racist card about colour.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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Kuroneko wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:34 pm
littlelostgirl wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:13 pm
AndyKK wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:47 am
The point of the post is that it is the colour that as offended, and not the education or qualifications.
The school want white people BECAUSE the Khmer parents want this.
I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Even if that person is well enough educated, they still shouldn't teach cause it's not their native language?

That sounds very racist to me. If it doesn't to you, okay then? Are we done?
I think maybe the Filipino English teacher was speaking/teaching Queens English and not American English and so PR felt the pronunciation incorrect. When I was in the USA for a while in the "80's everyone I came in contact with mispronounced English. :D :stir:

HMMMM well Germans, Brits, Ozzies and me complained about their pronunciation and use of the wrong words, IT was not just about how to pronounce "water" :beer3:

I mentioned qualifications cause that guy said, it's not our first language, so we shouldn't teach.
Speaking english as ur first language has absolutely nothing to do with qualifications

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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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My school gets constant requests from parents to employ Western teachers. We don't comply, but certain policies have evolved over more than 20 years.
Asian teachers are preferred to Western teachers at Primary and kindergarten. It isn't a matter of salaries, but a belief by administration that they are better suited to the role.
There is no discrimination at Secondary level, which I head. However, past experience has shown us that non-native speakers cannot cope effectively with the rigorous demands of the Cambridge International English curriculum, which focuses on advanced linguistics and/or literature studies. It's a far cry from ESL.
Do these policies make our school racist? If so, are we anti-Asian or anti-white?
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littlelostgirl wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:27 am
"Would you date him? He's old but he's very rich, he likes you"
"It's easy to get an Asian girlfriend, 80/100 Asian women would say yes if I asked them out"
Are these comments sexist (or racist)?
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Having English as a second language cannot have any connection with race because so many people in this world are not white and have English as a first language (African Americans etc) and so many white people do not have English as a first language (most Europeans for example).
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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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phuketrichard wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:51 pm
HMMMM well Germans, Brits, Ozzies and me complained about their pronunciation and use of the wrong words, IT was not just about how to pronounce "water" :beer3:

yes we are done....
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I gathered that, I was just :stir: I took the focus of your post being about competence not ethnicity. I suspect if parents here used the same criteria concerning competence rather than appearance then many of the English teachers would be out of a job. :D

Here English teaching is a business and hiring is done to increase profit. The parents want a "white face" to teach their children and that's what they get. The school hires a teacher that looks the part (often) irrespective of competence, and the school makes money. Only the students are likely to loose, but this is not apparent for sometime down the track. The result is the school makes money without culpability. In other professions here, for example nursing, competence rather than appearance is more important. People pay for discernible results rather than appearance and therefor you get hired on competence. Well hopefully :D
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Re: Teachers Wanted: No Negroes, Indians, Mongoloids Need Apply

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Its easy for something said or written to offend.
The job post is advertising for a qualified white skinned female Khmer, with excellent English skills. Like I say my lady is Khmer black skinned, should she think it is a racist remark?
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