Standing your ground (an accident story)

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:47 pm

General Mackevili wrote:
Joker Poker wrote:I got cut off by a moron riding a moto on Norodom this afternoon, just clipped my moto and my left ankle.

I was turning left, had my indicator on and had hand signalled my intention as I know brainless riders ignore the indicator. Fuckwit still had to pass me on the inside while I was turning, meaning he was also now on the wrong side of the road. I had two kids on the bike and was ropeable. Lucky for him he didn't come to a complete stop, anyway, I don't think he'll soon forget the spray he got.

I would guess this would be about the tenth time a moron has passed me on the inside when I'm turning when there is absolutely no fucking need to do it.
If he passed you on the INSIDE, how did he clip your left ankle?

(Shh... that actually makes sense - the left ankle is like the other right ankle)

YouTube · Post by **General Mackevili** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:51 am

Joker Poker wrote:
General Mackevili wrote:
Joker Poker wrote:I got cut off by a moron riding a moto on Norodom this afternoon, just clipped my moto and my left ankle.

I was turning left, had my indicator on and had hand signalled my intention as I know brainless riders ignore the indicator. Fuckwit still had to pass me on the inside while I was turning, meaning he was also now on the wrong side of the road. I had two kids on the bike and was ropeable. Lucky for him he didn't come to a complete stop, anyway, I don't think he'll soon forget the spray he got.

I would guess this would be about the tenth time a moron has passed me on the inside when I'm turning when there is absolutely no fucking need to do it.
If he passed you on the INSIDE, how did he clip your left ankle?
Because I was heading south along Norodom and turning left from the RH lane as you do. Moron ignored or didn't bother to see my indicator and hand signal or the fact that I was well into my turn, so he clipped the LHS of my moto including my L ankle - no damage done, just left a black mark on my ankle and a blacker one against his name.

Ok, but what you're describing sounds like he passed you on the OUTSIDE.

[EDIT: I think I found our problem, LoL. This is interesting...

It happens to be a language barrier, my Pommie friend, LoL. What you call the INSIDE in the UK, we call the OUTSIDE in the US. This is news to me!

From Wikipedia:

"In British English the meanings of inside and outside lanes are the reverse of US English. So in Britain, overtaking is performed using the outside lane, in the US it is termed the inside lane. In both cases, it is a passing lane farther from the shoulder of the roadway."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking

I was seriously confused about this and probably read your post 5+ times to make sure I wasn't being an ass!

Anyways, I found this quite amusing, as it's probably been years since American/British English has caused me confusion.

What do you Ozzies make of this?

kiwiincambodia · Post by **kiwiincambodia** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:24 am

Ozzies don't think.

MekongMouse · Post by **MekongMouse** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:40 am

But Cambodians (sort of) drive on the right side of the road, so wouldn't we be using terminology that conforms to this (as in the Brits and Aussies are wrong)?

Joker Poker · Post by **Joker Poker** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:49 am

Maybe this will clarify things.

I cannot see how that could be considered outside.

YouTube · Post by **General Mackevili** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:59 am

Joker Poker wrote:Maybe this will clarify things.

I cannot see how that could be considered outside.

Yeah, I get it now. Americans call that OUTSIDE, that's all. Hence the miscommunication.

Nice map!

Joker Poker · Post by **Joker Poker** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:07 am

Wow, that makes no sense to me at all.

If you are sitting in a car, are you inside it or outside? Is the centre bit of a circle the inside or the outside? If the centre of a circle is the inside, how can the the arc I drew and where the dude clipped me not be inside?

I'm totally confused by American English at times.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:13 pm

Regardless of which side of the road your country drives, if you are turning across oncoming traffic and a driver comes from behind you and passes between you and the oncoming traffic, that is passing "on the inside".

YouTube · Post by **General Mackevili** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:41 pm

StroppyChops wrote:Regardless of which side of the road your country drives, if you are turning across oncoming traffic and a driver comes from behind you and passes between you and the oncoming traffic, that is passing "on the inside".

Again, the inside/outside lane thing doesn't have to do with which side of the road you drive on, it has to do with whether you're talking about the center of the road or near the edges/shoulder of the road.

What Americans call the inside lane, Brits calls an outside lane.

Yes, it's confusing.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... nside-lane

I think I'm even more confused now, to be honest.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:06 pm

Think of inside as, well, literally 'inside' - if some one overtakes between you and the center line, that's an inside overtake. In Australia this is the only legal way to overtake, but NOT if a vehicle in front of you is indicating to turn across oncoming traffic (at which point it becomes legal to go around the outside).

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