As others and yourself said, I think the accident was your fault. In the sense that you can't blame the other drunk guy. However, I don't think he could blame you even had you run him over again. He crashed on his own because of his own wrongdoing. In doing so he put others in danger. However, as GM said, one should be always ready to stop. It's a bit much on a highway at night, but such is life... At least you're still alive and relatively ok... Sort of...

Want to sell that KTM? Since it's been crashed, I'll give you 2000$.


As for Jacket... You made a left turn without properly looking to see if there was oncoming traffic. Even in the west they'd say it was your fault. I've had a few close calls in the same manner, or also when I'm overtaking an SUV from the left and then the car slows down because some motocyclist decided to cut him off (not seeing me coming in fast). You can stand your ground all you want, but it won't change the end result. Damage was minimal and is was at least 60% your fault. What outcome did you expect exactly? For the driver to compensate you for emotional damage?

I think the OP was very fortunate he didn't get a right-good stomping. What embarrassing behavior on his part in every aspect. He represents the worst sort of expat...clueless, wrong, rude, and stubborn with a bizarre sense of entitlement.

LTO and Soi Dog, you two can go screw yourselves! As for the rest of you guys, I'll take a break from posting on here for a bit and think it over. Maybe I am coming at it from the wrong angle.

Let me just say this though: This wasn't the first time some Khmer screwed me over in traffic. I've been rear ended in Kampot once and the guy who crashed into me FROM BEHIND wanted 200$ from me (who knows, maybe it was my fault that he was busy with his phone and didn't keep his eyes on the road when the accident happened) and the second time I was on my wife's mini-scoopy when some douchebag on a propper scoopy rear-ended me, broke a whole lot of parts on her [my wife's] moto and then just drove off before I could get to him (he was in the right though. because...
...well, just because)

anyway, if you're not LTO or Soi Dog then take care guys. I'll revisit this in a couple of days.

Sorry you feel that way, but duuude, you need to chill. Stewing over past offenses and using it as reason to get confrontational at the wrong time is a bad sign. It's a sign of an expat reaching his limit. Bend like the reed or break like a tree in the storm.

A recent video of people blindly driving in a direction where they can't see anything at all:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=971_1425674752

Dangerous stuff.

The best thing to do is to realise that most Khmers don't have any driving skills or sense of self-preservation regarding driving.

Even HE commented on it years back, saying that he couldn't understand why people didn't seem to care about their own lives.

Be defensive at all times, never drive over 40kmh in the city, and never, ever assume that there is no nutter trying to overtake that truck you are trying to get past.

Oh, and get insurance from Infinity, less than $150/year

General Mackevili wrote:A recent video of people blindly driving in a direction where they can't see anything at all:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=971_1425674752

Dangerous stuff.

In 1996 while driving east early morning on a french highway to go skiing we arrived first on a pile up in the exact same conditions. We managed to find a way through the wreckage, parked a couple hundred meters after and call the police. As we were checking on the people, some more cars arrived at high speed. I remember seeing an Audi jump in the air but couldn't hear a sound ?! There was 6 dead that day...
A old man was repeating it wasn't his fault, that he just braked as he couldn't see anything...

Jacket wrote:...anyway, if you're not LTO or Soi Dog then take care guys. I'll revisit this in a couple of days.

In my previous post I forgot to add the adjective immature to describe this OP.

Sei nicht so deutsch, jacke. You really think something will change if you play Jesus except your life expectancy?

General Mackevili wrote:

Jacket wrote: So, in the lane with the oncoming traffic there was a silver SUV, it was approaching me, but it was far enough away and moving slow enough for me to take a left turn...
...or that's what I thought. All of a sudden some wanker on a black & grey Honda Wave shot out from behind the SUV in an attempt to overtake it. I just saw him coming my way and braced for the impact. The next thing I know I was picking myself up from the ground. The guy already was in the middle of picking up his scooter when I stopped him. I took his key out of the ignition and told him to stop until the police comes. He wasn't too happy about this and started to explain to me (in pretty good English) that I was wrong because I wasn't wearing a helmet of the time of the accident.

Call me crazy (or worse), but this sounds like your fault from beginning to end.

You cut across traffic, had no helmet, probably no licence and failed to see a vehicle in the lane that you cut over across while making a left hand turn when they were going STRAIGHT?

You are lucky you got outta there without paying.

I always have a hard time blaming this scenario on the guy going straight and not the guy making a left hand turn across traffic.

I don't care if he was going 100 miles per hour, YOU cut across HIS traffic. It is up to you to YIELD and make damn sure everything is clear before cutting across traffic to make a left turn.

The lesson you should learn here is YOU need to be more careful when cutting across traffic like you did. There will almost ALWAYS be some twit driving too fast. You should expect them.

Bottom line: I believe it's always up to the person cutting across traffic like you did to make a left hand turn who needs to make absolutely sure it's done safely.

Glad you're both OK!

did you not see "So, in the lane with the oncoming traffic there was a silver SUV, it was approaching me, but it was far enough away and moving slow enough for me to take a left turn...
?????
are you daft enough to suggest he wait until the entire lane is clear for as far as one can see?

I can't even begin to believe some of the reasoning you use. Because he's TURNING it's his fault? Some guy on a moto zooms up behing the slow SUV this guy SAW and overtook and ran INTO this guy and you see it as him running into zoom boy? fuck'n amazing. In fact it was passing on the right boy's fault as he was hidden behind the SUV which Jacket had properly sussed was traveling slow enough to make his turn, having almost done the turn when wacked in the last bit by asshole speeding by SUV on it's right. But yeah, LTO might be right, if Jacket don't start using the "we are always wrong" thinking, he may not make it there long. Thread it chock fulla some kind of weird, expat against expat logic. This from guys most often pointing out how bad the locals drive.