Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by Phnom Poon » Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:16 pm

Multipox wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:58 pm
There are lists and registries, they don't tell you about.
The secret policeman's ball for example

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Re: Social Credit - it’s great!

Post by Multipox » Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:37 am

John Bingham wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:57 pm


....

So the Chinese govt creates millions of people as social outcasts who start to form their own outsider society.
When it reaches critical mass it becomes a force for rebellion.
Then all the little boyscout Chinese bureaucrats who enforced it start bobbing their heads up and down.

In the West, they like to create pariah groups. Make people afraid of a fake enemy.
Same thing.
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by frank lee bent » Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:27 am

very pleased to see everyone is onboard with reality.
it is really tinfoil hat stuff cept it is real.
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by Captain » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:17 am

DrRawBlueGreen wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:12 pm
No powerful government better than the other. East or west, south or north. same same but different. “Control the masses and stay in charge at any costs” Democracy is a lie. Laws are for the powerless.
True leaders always die young, Che, King, JFK, Gaddafi and so on. Manipulative and ruthless “leaders” control the world, as usual. Indeed scary but I almost get used to it. Luckily we’re all creatures of habit.
I'm not sure I'd say Gaddafi died young at the age of 69, but you can debate whether he should have been assassinated that way. Fun fact: Gaddafi was the world's richest man, with a net worth of 212 billion USD!
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by DrRawBlueGreen » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:32 pm

The good die young. “Richest” Says who. I think Haus of Saud, Rockefellers and Rothschilds have much more.
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by DrRawBlueGreen » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Let’s not forget the oligarchs and Chinese as well. He was by far not the richest.
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by Anchor Moy » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:01 pm

Scary control of movement.

China bans 23m from buying travel tickets as part of 'social credit' system
People accused of social offences blocked from booking flights and train journeys

Lily Kuo in Beijing

Fri 1 Mar 2019 13.48 GMT
China blocked 23 million “discredited” travellers from buying plane or train tickets last year as part of the country’s controversial “social credit” system aimed at improving the behaviour of citizens.

According to the National Public Credit Information Centre’s 2018 report, 17.5 million people were banned from buying flights and 5.5 million barred from purchasing high-speed train tickets because of social credit offences. The report released last week said: “Once discredited, limited everywhere”.

The social credit system aims to incentivise “trustworthy” behaviour through penalties as well as rewards. According to a government document about the system dating from 2014, the aim is to “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”

Social credit offences range from not paying individual taxes or fines to spreading false information and taking drugs. More minor violations include using expired tickets, smoking on a train or not walking a dog on a leash.

Local governments and agencies have been piloting aspects of the system, which will eventually give every Chinese citizen a personalised score. Critics saidauthorities in China were using technology and big data to create an Orwellian state of mass surveillance and control.

Authorities have previously used blacklists to limit the travel of some citizens, but the social credit system appears to have expanded the practice. China’s supreme court said in 2017 that 6.15 million citizens had been barred from taking flights because of social credit offences.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... dit-system
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by Duncan » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:50 am

Anchor Moy wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:01 pm
Scary control of movement.

China bans 23m from buying travel tickets as part of 'social credit' system
People accused of social offences blocked from booking flights and train journeys

Lily Kuo in Beijing

Fri 1 Mar 2019 13.48 GMT
China blocked 23 million “discredited” travellers from buying plane or train tickets last year as part of the country’s controversial “social credit” system aimed at improving the behaviour of citizens.

According to the National Public Credit Information Centre’s 2018 report, 17.5 million people were banned from buying flights and 5.5 million barred from purchasing high-speed train tickets because of social credit offences. The report released last week said: “Once discredited, limited everywhere”.

The social credit system aims to incentivise “trustworthy” behaviour through penalties as well as rewards. According to a government document about the system dating from 2014, the aim is to “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”

Social credit offences range from not paying individual taxes or fines to spreading false information and taking drugs. More minor violations include using expired tickets, smoking on a train or not walking a dog on a leash.

Local governments and agencies have been piloting aspects of the system, which will eventually give every Chinese citizen a personalised score. Critics saidauthorities in China were using technology and big data to create an Orwellian state of mass surveillance and control.

Authorities have previously used blacklists to limit the travel of some citizens, but the social credit system appears to have expanded the practice. China’s supreme court said in 2017 that 6.15 million citizens had been barred from taking flights because of social credit offences.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... dit-system


2017 that 6.15 million citizens had been barred from taking flights because of social credit offences.


I guess that is why they are arriving in shitsville by the boatload these days.
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by Anchor Moy » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:21 am

Duncan wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:50 am
2017 that 6.15 million citizens had been barred from taking flights because of social credit offences.

I guess that is why they are arriving in shitsville by the boatload these days.
It' s not so far-fetched to imagine that some of our new residents have been shipped here to work, or at the least, 'permitted' to come here by the Chinese authorities. China's population is expanding, so why not export the troublemakers and keep the sheep ?
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Re: Social Credit - it’s evil and scary

Post by clutchcargo » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:40 am

“allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”
So these ''trustworthy'' citizens that are allowed to travel to Casinoville can then presumably let their hair down and partake in gambling, drugs and prostitution coz they don't come under the ever watchful eye of the social credit system outside the PRC?

And then eventually they return home and become model citizens again?

The fooking hypocrisy and double standards is amazing. It reminds me of the arabs around Soi Nana in Bangkok..drink like a fish outside their countries. Or the Malaysians popping over to Hat Yai, Thailand for the prostitution.
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