Should Chinese New Year be a 'recognized' holiday in Cambodia?
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I can't speak for juansweetpotato, but I was referring to the real life on the ground, not wikipedia's article on ethnic ghettos.
I was thinking more along the lines of integration, intermarriages, and ancestry.
I was thinking more along the lines of integration, intermarriages, and ancestry.
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Sorry Hanno, I'm not trying to prove you wrong, just trying to get to the bottom of this. I know that there are a lot of ethnic Khmer , that's not what I was debating. It's the number of pure Khmer that own/run successful businesses outside of the ' lets open a shop where we live' demographic. I even notice that the more successful one's of these are often owned by what look pure Chinese or sino-Khmer.hanno wrote:According to official counts, 1% are ethnic Chinese.....juansweetpotato wrote:hanno wrote:I walk down my street and all the businesses are Khmer-owned. A lot of the hotels here in Temple Town belong to Khmer Okhna. But maybe things are different in Phnom Penh....
Do they have 100% Khmer faces? it would surprise me if a vast majority weren't sino-Khmer. I work for an Okhna at the moment. He speaks Chinese and, although the subject hasn't come up, I would say he looks like he has a lot of Chinese in him.
And let's not forget that HE himself is sino-Khmer.
But hey, I am sure you guys know a lot better..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... nic_groups
The last paragraph is worth posting as well, especially the concluding comment. Written in 2008Foreigners travelling to Phnom Penh in the mid 19th century didn’t find a sleepy Khmer fishing town. Instead, they happened upon thousands of bustling Cantonese traders. Their legacy in the Sino-Khmer population continues as these long settled immigrants dominate the oil and tourism industries and own countless shop fronts in Cambodia’s cities, while newly arrived mainland Chinese invest in garment production and construction.
In the 1800s, French colonials allowed Chinese-run businesses to flourish. William Willmott, a mid-century expert on Chinese communities, claimed the ethnic Chinese controlled 92 percent of Cambodian commerce in the mid 1900s. They traded in urban areas and worked as shopkeepers, moneylenders and traditional healers in rural areas, while Chinese farmers controlled Cambodia’s lucrative Kampot pepper industry.
The golden Sino-Khmer era came to an abrupt end when the Khmer Rouge sent urbanites to the killing fields and the ensuing economic collapse destroyed the businesses of rural Chinese-Khmers. The Vietnamese, who were invaded by China in response to their ousting of the Khmer Rouge, were deeply suspicious of the Sino-Khmer population, and although ethnic Chinese Cambodians made up a tiny fraction of the population of Cambodia, they accounted for half of Cambodian refugees fleeing to the US in the 1980s.
The tides have turned, though, in the wake of HE’s bloody 1997 coup and the subsequent severing of diplomatic relations with Taiwan. Chinese investment has soared, with Chinese nationals opening up hundreds of garment factories, construction projects and mines, and are often seen by Cambodian businessmen as preferential to Western investors who tend to push human rights issues and transparency.
Ethnic Chinese-Khmers are making a comeback as well, establishing a council of “Oknha,” or Lords, a title purchased from the Cambodian Royal family and often bestowed on Chinese-Khmer businessmen. The two most influential Oknha are Sok Korn, the president of Sokimex, and Sorn Sokna, his vice chairman. Together they control at least 35 percent of Cambodia’s petroleum industry and ticket concessions at the Angkor Wat, among other huge tourism and development projects. New generation Oknha Kith Menh is challenging old attitudes on Westernization and has partnered with Australia’s ANZ bank. He also owns telecommunications company Mobitel and the only legal football gambling outfit in Cambodia, Cambo Six.
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http://www.thechinabeat.org/?tag=sino-khmer“The Chinese New Year is the busiest time of the year in Phnom Penh because foreigners come to Cambodia from Korea, China and Vietnam to escape the holiday,” says Jim Heston, a long-time Phnom Penh resident and bar owner. How much longer they can flee by coming to Cambodia, no one can say.
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Re: Should Chinese New Year be a 'recognized' holiday in Cambodia?
also from the same wikipedia article....hanno wrote:According to official counts, 1% are ethnic Chinese.....juansweetpotato wrote:hanno wrote:I walk down my street and all the businesses are Khmer-owned. A lot of the hotels here in Temple Town belong to Khmer Okhna. But maybe things are different in Phnom Penh....
Do they have 100% Khmer faces? it would surprise me if a vast majority weren't sino-Khmer. I work for an Okhna at the moment. He speaks Chinese and, although the subject hasn't come up, I would say he looks like he has a lot of Chinese in him.
And let's not forget that HE himself is sino-Khmer.
But hey, I am sure you guys know a lot better..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... nic_groups
The Chinese have immigrated to Cambodia from different regions of China throughout Cambodia's history, integrating into Cambodian society and today Chinese Cambodians or Cambodians of mixed Sino-Khmer ancestry dominate the business community, politics and the media.
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Ha hah hah! At the end of that paragraph it has [8]. (i.e see Reference #8)Jamie_Lambo wrote:also from the same wikipedia article....The Chinese have immigrated to Cambodia from different regions of China throughout Cambodia's history, integrating into Cambodian society and today Chinese Cambodians or Cambodians of mixed Sino-Khmer ancestry dominate the business community, politics and the media.
Here it is, including the link:
8. "Cambodia Ethnic Groups". Cambodia-travel.com. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
Hardly looks like a credible authority. Cites no sources either.
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keep out of it you lol hahahaUsername Taken wrote:Ha hah hah! At the end of that paragraph it has [8]. (i.e see Reference #8)Jamie_Lambo wrote:also from the same wikipedia article....The Chinese have immigrated to Cambodia from different regions of China throughout Cambodia's history, integrating into Cambodian society and today Chinese Cambodians or Cambodians of mixed Sino-Khmer ancestry dominate the business community, politics and the media.
Here it is, including the link:
8. "Cambodia Ethnic Groups". Cambodia-travel.com. Retrieved 2012-09-02.
Hardly looks like a credible authority. Cites no sources either.
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