CJM555 wrote:http://thecommunity.com/no-to-torture/

"When a nation’s leaders condone and even order torture, that nation has lost its way. One need only look to the regimes where torture became a systematic practice – from Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany to the French in Algeria, South Vietnam, the Khmer Rouge and others – to see the ultimate fate of a regime so divorced from their own humanity."

Respectfully,

President José Ramos-Horta, Timor-Leste,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1996

Leymah Gbowee, Liberia,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 2011

John Hume, Northern Ireland,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1998

Bishop Carlos X. Belo, Timor-Leste,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1996

Archbishop Desmond Tutu, South Africa,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1984

Muhammad Yunus, Bangladesh,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 2006

F.W. De Klerk, South Africa,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1993

Betty Williams, Northern Ireland,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1976

Mohammad ElBaradei, Egypt,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 2005

Oscar Arias Sanchez, Costa Rica,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1987

Jody Williams, USA,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1997

Adolfo Perez Esquivel, Argentina,
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, 1980


Usual smoke & mirrors:-

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/us/po ... .html?_r=2

WASHINGTON — When the Bush administration revealed in 2005 that it was secretly interpreting a treaty ban on “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment” as not applying to C.I.A. and military prisons overseas, Barack Obama, then a newly elected Democratic senator from Illinois, joined in a bipartisan protest.

Mr. Obama supported legislation to make it clear that American officials were legally barred from using cruelty anywhere in the world. And in a Senate speech, he said enacting such a statute “acknowledges and confirms existing obligations” under the treaty, the United Nations Convention Against Torture.

But the Obama administration has never officially declared its position on the treaty, and now, President Obama’s legal team is debating whether to back away from his earlier view. It is considering reaffirming the Bush administration’s position that the treaty imposes no legal obligation on the United States to bar cruelty outside its borders, according to officials who discussed the deliberations on the condition of anonymity.

Spoiler:

LTO wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:Obes has a Nobel Peace Prize?

Yup. The Norwegians were so impressed with him being not-Bush, they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.

StroppyChops wrote:

LTO wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:Obes has a Nobel Peace Prize?

Yup. The Norwegians were so impressed with him being not-Bush, they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.

Well that diminishes the brand somewhat.

LTO wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:

LTO wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:Obes has a Nobel Peace Prize?

Yup. The Norwegians were so impressed with him being not-Bush, they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.

Well that diminishes the brand somewhat.

Can't sink much lower after giving it to Kissinger.

CJM555 wrote:So what is a better option? tickle them with feathers? How about a pillow fight with the Jihadist?

I think you would sing a different tune if was your own mothers head sticking on a fence.

Spoiler:

BTW the man in the pic. Australian citizen. Yessss. Keep voting for that labor party ya got!!

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I do support it. 100% I would like to go further and carpet bomb with extreme prejudice that bowl of hate known as the middle east. But ya gotta keep it going! why end it? Send Aid of arms medical and food to the exact people who we torture? Insane. 22 years since Persian gulf...havent learned shit. Didnt get a drop of oil. But! we did get Opium and Lithium from Afghanistan!

Bomb it all kill the children who learn to hate and end it.(Ouch! but its the truth sorry)


Labor party being the ones who opened up to immigration and allowed people as shown above in. I dont think stroppy wanted this man to have a passport of his country. or maybe he did cause he wants embrace the ones who want him dead.

StroppyChops wrote:

LTO wrote:

StroppyChops wrote:Obes has a Nobel Peace Prize?

Yup. The Norwegians were so impressed with him being not-Bush, they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for it.

Well that diminishes the brand somewhat.