Self- help for an Opiate OD

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Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

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Here's a link suggesting it can't be used as an IV solution. Times (and training) change...

Here's a little something from ABC Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/ ... 143229.htm
However, in an emergency, coconut water can be used.
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That's all a bit complicated. Good information, you never know when some tragic scenario can spring up. What about just slapping someone in the face and marching them around?
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StroppyChops wrote:Here's a link suggesting it can't be used as an IV solution. Times (and training) change...

Here's a little something from ABC Australia: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/ ... 143229.htm
However, in an emergency, coconut water can be used.
Great article, thanks.
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John Bingham wrote:That's all a bit complicated. Good information, you never know when some tragic scenario can spring up. What about just slapping someone in the face and marching them around?
I think that maybe only in the movies. The guy I came across a few months ago was a big chap. I couldn't have lifted him on my own. It took 5 of us to carry him downstairs to the tuk-tuk. Maybe if you are with them when they start to lose consciousness you could slap them around and walk them etc, but when they have slipped into unconsciousness its hard.Also, you really need to be counteracting the drug as it will maybe take over the system even more as time goes on.
What I did was put him in the recovery position. But that was no good, as he wasn't breathing. His wife started giving him mouth to mouth(we were all just guessing). i think that is what saved his life. That and him being only 4 minutes away from Calmette. Saw him to next day looking weak and very sheepish.

Looks like the best advice is to carry some Naloxone and a syringe and be informed. Just make sure their airways are clear and you keep giving them mouth to mouth if they are not breathing (most important!!!).
Then suck up .2mg Nalox (Naloxone) into the syringe, clear the air and whack it into the muscle of the arm and wait 4 mins. Repeat as necessary. Up to 10mg.
if the patient doesn't come round and start breathing again after 10 mg in staged doses, it's not an opiate problem they've got.

I might just buy some and a syringe and keep under the bike seat in case I come across another one. I doubt if Nalox is expensive as it's manufactured in India. :thumb: I'll try and find out and post the price. I wouldn't be surprised if you could save a life for $1 and a bit of info.

EDIT:I guess I should really have included something about " If there is no medical center etc nearby" but that is obviously a given. This is as the title suggests mainly for a self help, or a mate to help when your cut off on a island etc.
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Cool if you're a paramedic or combat doctor. As for carrying drugs and syringes etc, who the hell wants to do that? Get caught with that stuff and you are fucked. Anyway after reading all this I'll be making an even better effort to just completely avoiding druggies altogether.
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Lol, Negative comments. Some diabetics have to carry syringes around.
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I'm quite aware of that actually. Anyway, I'll just stick with the slap them around, throw a bucket of ice on their head and march them around style. Even the impending zombie apocalypse isn't really scary enough for me to want to go out and buy syringes and drugs and carry them around in case I have to save some zombies.
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Yep. I'm also the kind who lets the rescuing to specialists like JSP and his junkie-loving friends, in order to focus on my own business.
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Can you keep the maliciousness to that awful place you call home. Stop trying to infect everywhere you go.
the Raven, Frank Lee and a few others have tried to show how your black and white view of the world is totaly invalid. It's a real shame that people like you exist on inet fora. Your even an admin :facepalm: Bingham is often drunk when he makes the above type post. What's your excuse?
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Nobody has been malicious. I'm just way off carrying a giant syringe and a load of medication around in case some fruitcake I don't even know or give a fuck about is going to OD. I keep away from those kind of people and situations.
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