Self- help for an Opiate OD

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:26 pm

if they took pills u can make them vomit

if they shot up coke/smack u got the needle

call 911 dont let them fall asleep
pray for the best

3 problem's with most drug od's
1. those around them dont want to get involved
2. those around are to fucked up to give a shit
3. the person is alone

I had a good friend that was a diabetic and took insulin , he was constantly oding so we were always prepared,

saved his life more times than i can count, Would he quit? Fuck no , loved the bees buzzing in his head

LTO · Post by **LTO** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:17 pm

I've taken ODs to Calmette a couple of times. I don't think they have Narcan, but otherwise seemed to do all the right things. Both survived.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:19 pm

you better get up and walk and drink water untill your back teeth float
if you can

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:16 pm

phuketrichard wrote:In jest to many pills;
pump stomach/ force the person to puke
Don't let them fall asleep

Smack/coke overdose
we used to shoot a shot of milk ( or coconut milk) into the bloodstream
and the adrenaline shot

Only lost one friend to an od

Young coconut milk can be used as a vasodilator (to increase blood volume, e.g. to treat an arterial bleed) but AFAIK does not have any medical properties. Never heard of injecting milk before - what does that do?

Edit: cold shower for OD by vein is good, lowers the elevated temperature to stop the brain cooking itself, but watch for choking. Last heroin OD I treated in Oz involved a partner/pimp throwing his working girl partner under the shower, sending the toddler to the neighbours to call 000, and then legging it. By the time we arrived the family Rottweiler had gone into guard mum mode - lots of fun on a time critical callout.

juansweetpotato · Post by **juansweetpotato** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:38 pm

Ok we have some data from Kuroneko. This is what to do if your mate, BF,GF wife/husband etc OD's .
First the Don'ts
http://www.unodc.org/documents/southasi ... -users.pdf

Don’t leave someone who’s overdosing alone except if you absolutely must
leave the area to call for help; the client could stop breathing and die.

 Don’t put the client in the bath; it could lead to death.

 Don’t serve anything to drink or induce vomiting; the client could choke.

 Do not make him/her drink salt water, or put salt in the mouth. This does not
help. On the contrary, he/she may choke.

 Do not inject salt water as this is dangerous and can cause sudden death among
the clients.

Overdose Management

If you think someone is overdosing: check the following:

 Is the person breathing?

 Is the person responsive (do they answer when you shake them and call their name)?

 Does he/she respond to stimulation (such as sternum rub)?

 Can the person speak?

 What is the colour of his/her skin?

Following are the basic steps to respond effectively to most opioid overdose cases. The steps can be best
remembered by an acronym “SCARE ME”

Evaluate

 Is the client any better?

 Can you obtain Naloxone quickly enough?

 Can you prepare an injection of Naloxone?

Naloxone.

Muscular Injection

 Prepare the Naloxone.

 Inject it straight into upper arm, butt, or thigh.

 Remember intramuscular (IM) injection is as effective as intravenous (IV) injection of Naloxone.
Evaluate and support

 Is the client breathing on his/her own?

 If the first shot doesn’t work within 4 minutes, give him/her a second dose of Naloxone.

 Comfort the client – he/she will suffer from opioid withdrawals after Naloxone injection. Remind the
client that the effect of Naloxone will wear off in a little while and they will stop feeling sick.

 Try not to let him/her use more drugs until the effect of Naloxone wears off. Naloxone wears off in 30-90
minutes. Stay with them until they go to the hospital.

Post by **Username Taken** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:53 pm

StroppyChops wrote:Young coconut milk can be used as a vasodilator (to increase blood volume, e.g. to treat an arterial bleed) but AFAIK does not have any medical properties. Never heard of injecting milk before - what does that do?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I'm pretty sure that during the KR times they used coconut milk as an IV, as it is apparently completely sterile.
IANAD!

wackyjacky · Post by **wackyjacky** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:20 pm

Only 1/10 ODs result in death in the West. Most of those are the result of drowning in your own puke. Sometimes your body forgets to breath especially when the H is mixed with booze and/or Benzos (Valium, Xanax etc). The other killer is a allergic reaction to the cut - especially Quinine.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:27 pm

Username Taken wrote:
StroppyChops wrote:Young coconut milk can be used as a vasodilator (to increase blood volume, e.g. to treat an arterial bleed) but AFAIK does not have any medical properties. Never heard of injecting milk before - what does that do?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I'm pretty sure that during the KR times they used coconut milk as an IV, as it is apparently completely sterile.
IANAD!

It's common tropical bush medicine for when nothing better is available - and actually taught by the St John Association as an "interesting to know" for senior officers.

juansweetpotato · Post by **juansweetpotato** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:38 pm

Interesting to know but not recommended? ^

BTW this has nothing to do with OD's does it? Isn't used as an electrolyte in case of dehydration?

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:41 pm

juansweetpotato wrote:Interesting to know but not recommended? ^

BTW this has nothing to do with OD's does it? Isn't used as an electrolyte in case of dehydration?

Dunno if it's on topic or not, I think someone else mentioned injection milk (please don't ever do this to me) or coconut milk into veins for an OD.

In extreme cases young coconut juice can be used as a blood replacement, up to a limit - but as stated, only when nothing better (like Hartman's solution) is available. If I was dying for lack of blood volume, I'd want some young coconut juice mainlined into me. If I wasn't dying, I'm not so sure.

Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Re: Self- help for an Opiate OD

Who is online

Register/Login to CEO with your Social Media Account: