Scooter vs Tuktuk

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Re: Scooter vs Tuktuk

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This is the bit I don't like, it's like you never truly own the bike:

After two years you can:

Trade-in your motorbike for a brand new latest model motorbike

or

Keep your motorbike and enjoy 30 monthly swaps (over 1800 km) for $29/month


If you're only using it occasionally, $29/month is way more than you'd spend on petrol. This is why I'd prefer a battery I could charge myself, not necessarily by plugging the moto into a power point but maybe by popping the battery out and taking it inside. They come across as control freaks.
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A10 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:57 am 800 watts...so it only has 1 horsepower?
It’s not that much, but the efficiency is 4-5 times higher than a petrol powered engine. I think a Honda wave 110 has about 7-8 hp but has a 90 kg empty weight. The electric scooter probably weighs significantly less. So in the end it kind of evens out.
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$30/month isn't attractive though. I would have to travel around 400km of city riding to spend that much on gas. Add the fact that you can't ride in the countryside and it's got more drawbacks than positives. Still an interesting idea for those who just want something to putput around the city.
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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:01 pm $30/month isn't attractive though. I would have to travel around 400km of city riding to spend that much on gas. Add the fact that you can't ride in the countryside and it's got more drawbacks than positives. Still an interesting idea for those who just want something to putput around the city.
Yeah it seems like a scam as you will always be locked into them courtesy of their battery, when you should be able to own your own battery and charge it however you want.
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A couple of Q's,
i/ Are similar scooters available on the open market?
ii/ Are they likely to make similar rapid advances in technology and cost reduction as in most other green-tech products?

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A good way to go, is to buy a bicycle, then buy an electric conversion kit, and put it together. You can order the conversion kit online, and get it sent to Cambodia.

beaker has put one together in Cambodia.

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Re: Scooter vs Tuktuk

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Kammekor wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pm
A10 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:57 am 800 watts...so it only has 1 horsepower?
It’s not that much, but the efficiency is 4-5 times higher than a petrol powered engine. I think a Honda wave 110 has about 7-8 hp but has a 90 kg empty weight. The electric scooter probably weighs significantly less. So in the end it kind of evens out.
I haven't seen detailed specs, but just going by my last electric scooter which was a 1500 watt version (which was a bloody tank), I'd actually wager the electric weighs a bit more. My Honda Today's engine only weighs 15 kg, and a tank of petrol maybe 2 or 3 kg, so unless the battery can come in much less than that, I don't know.
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Re: Scooter vs Tuktuk

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A10 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:26 pm
Kammekor wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pm
A10 wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:57 am 800 watts...so it only has 1 horsepower?
It’s not that much, but the efficiency is 4-5 times higher than a petrol powered engine. I think a Honda wave 110 has about 7-8 hp but has a 90 kg empty weight. The electric scooter probably weighs significantly less. So in the end it kind of evens out.
I haven't seen detailed specs, but just going by my last electric scooter which was a 1500 watt version (which was a bloody tank), I'd actually wager the electric weighs a bit more. My Honda Today's engine only weighs 15 kg, and a tank of petrol maybe 2 or 3 kg, so unless the battery can come in much less than that, I don't know.
The Honda today is quite a light engine, in all aspects.
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Just as a comparison there is this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 2ad9f9StUX

No idea what it would cost after import duties/taxes etc, but at least no-one would be dictating where or when you charge the battery.
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timmydownawell wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:17 pm Just as a comparison there is this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 2ad9f9StUX

No idea what it would cost after import duties/taxes etc, but at least no-one would be dictating where or when you charge the battery.
This one seems ineficient as it is 72volt and only does 50kmh,I have a pedal cycle with a conversion kit on it which is 48volt and it will do 50kmh.
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