Spigzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:01 pm Agree. White rice is just brown rice with the outer layer intact- the reason why it is “healthy” is because the body can’t easily dissolve that outer layer, thus can’t absorb most of the nutrients within. Nothing to do with calories, your body simply can’t digest it properly.

On the flip side- brown rice tastes waaaaay better in my opinion, I’ll go for “bai grahom” whenever it’s available.


But to echo another earlier post- basmati rice cannot be topped. Actually, Indian food can’t be topped. And that’s coming from a Rosbif!

What? Seriously, what? Brown rice has the outer layer (second layer actually) intact. The reason it’s “healthy” is because it contains more than just simple starch. Fats, proteins, fiber, etc. what you said managed to be both backwards and wrong.
Aresenic levels depend on both growing and cooking variables.
Peer revues show the “lucky iron fish” provides no sustained benefit. Iirc, longer than six months. It May be of benefit to women in early pregnancy, the jury is still out.
Red rice and black rice are both great and high in nutrition.
In Cambodia, except for the northwest, black rice is usually used only for fermentation(read booze).
Edit: if you’re worried about toxins in your food, KoW might not be the place for you.
Traditional prahok(fermented uncooked) enjoy your bile duct cancer.
Salt and Chile “cured” clams, liver flukes
Rice, flour, peanuts, ad nauseum, Aflatoxin (carcinogenic, not destroyed by cooking).
“24 hour flu” that’s food poisoning, from any number of things from Bacillus cereus in your fried rice to the fact soap is the exception, rather than the rule.

TL;DR we’re all gonna die, eat brown/red/black rice, that shits delicious

what's 'golden' rice?

jubo2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:42 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:07 pm People still eat rice?

yes it seems that they still don't know that rice or pasta or any carbs exist because they are cheap and easy to grow. It seems that people in 2020 still do not learn anything thanks to Internet...

Yes. Spaghetti trees are "cheap and easy to grow":

I personally prefer the short grain, glutinous, typical Taiwanese rice. The rice I was raised on.

Which happens to taste exactly like Japanese rice.
The Japanese spent years developing it and implementing it countrywide. The rice lab (now a memorial) can be found at NTU (former imperial college).

But I do see brown rice coming in my future.

Great thread.

jubo2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:47 pm and within the next 20 years you might understand that eating any kind of rice as any carbs is totally useless and even dangerous, as you are just adding useless sugar to your diet.
But don't expect many people here to know it and confirm.

I looked into keto and those extreme low carb diets - not more than 20 gr./day. What do these people eat all day, esp. in a place like Cambodia, in a small town outside of PP, mountains of chicken?
I tried it for a bit & couldn't keep it up. Sure, if you're fat you will lose weight but I'm not.

My suspicion is one size does not fit all when it comes to nutrition; what may work really well for one person may totally not work for another,


What's "golden rice", btw?

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:06 pm I like the texture of brown rice, but usually eat white, because it's more available/habit.

I came across some articles about arsenic in rice, and they suggest here that eating too much rice is bad for kids due to the natural arsenic content. Not something that ever occurred to me before. In that case, are Asian kids getting an arsenic overload ?

How Much Arsenic Is in Your Rice?
In late 2012 we released our original report on arsenic in rice, in which we found measurable levels in almost all of the 60 rice varieties and rice products we tested.

Our most recent testing and analysis gave us some new information on the risk of arsenic exposure in infants and children through rice cereal and other rice products. We looked at data released by the Food and Drug Administration in 2013 on the inorganic arsenic content of 656 processed rice-containing products. We found that rice cereal and rice pasta can have much more inorganic arsenic—a carcinogen—than our 2012 data showed. According to the results of our new tests, one serving of either could put kids over the maximum amount of rice we recommend they should have in a week. Rice cakes supply close to a child's weekly limit in one serving. Rice drinks can also be high in arsenic, and children younger than 5 shouldn’t drink them instead of milk. (Learn the new rice rules about weekly servings.)

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/mag ... /index.htm

Arsenic in foods has been the stuff of mother's nightmares for some time. Back in 2011 Dr. Oz made a big deal about arsenic in apple juice, and mothers everywhere were suddenly in a panic. I never expected rice to get on the arsenic bandwagon too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEDE9BFaV_g

techietraveller84 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:37 am

Arsenic in foods has been the stuff of mother's nightmares for some time. Back in 2011 Dr. Oz made a big deal about arsenic in apple juice, and mothers everywhere were suddenly in a panic. I never expected rice to get on the arsenic bandwagon too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEDE9BFaV_g

Arsenic in rice has been an issue in Cambodia for quite a few years as has the issue of Arsenic in ground water. Quite a few reports concerning both, eg:

Arsenic hazard in Cambodian rice from a market-based survey with a case study of Preak Russey village, Kandal Province
Peter J Gilbert 1 , David A Polya, David A Cooke Epub 2015 Apr 17


The mean As concentration for Cambodian rice (0.185 µg g(-1), range 0.047-0.771 µg g(-1)) was higher than that for imported rice from Vietnam and Thailand (0.162 and 0.157 µg g(-1), respectively) with mean As concentrations highest in rice from Prey Veng Province resulting in a daily dose of 1.77 µg kg(-1) b.w. (body weight) d(-1).

A rice and water consumption survey for 15 respondents in the village of Preak Russey revealed mean consumption rates of 522 g d(-1) of rice and 1.9 L d(-1) of water. At water As concentrations >1000 µg L(-1), the relative contribution to the daily dose from rice is low. When water As concentrations are lowered to 50 µg L(-1), daily doses from rice and water are both generally below the 3.0 µg kg(-1) b.w. d(-1) benchmark daily limit for a 0.5% increase in lung cancer, yet when combined they exceeded this value in all but three respondents.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25893486/

Assessing arsenic intake from groundwater and rice by residents in Prey Veng province, Cambodia. 12 Nov 2013,

We investigated total daily intake of As by residents in Prey Veng province in the Mekong River basin of Cambodia. Groundwater (n = 11), rice (n = 11) and fingernail (n = 23) samples were randomly collected from the households and analyzed for total As by inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry. Calculation indicated that daily dose of inorganic As was greater than the lower limits on the benchmark dose for a 0.5% increased incidence of lung cancer (BMDL0.5 equals to 3.0 μg d(-1) kg(-1)body wt.). Moreover, positive correlation between As in fingernail and daily dose of As from groundwater and rice and total daily dose of As were found. These results suggest that the Prey Veng residents are exposed to As in groundwater. As in rice is an additional source which is attributable to high As accumulation in human bodies in the Mekong River basin of Cambodia.

https://europepmc.org/article/med/24231403

Tried to get wife to eat brown. Takes longer to cook and she doesn’t like the taste. She does like basmati, and curry (and pies which I was hoping she wouldn’t because I have to do the oh so Cambodian thing of sharing. Damn).

I was surprised to learn recently that farmers no longer need to take their rice to a miller. A milling machine comes to them. It's cheaper this way. In fact it's free if the farmer lets the driver take away the husk (used as pig fodder). So there is less incentive to do the hard manual work that produces brown rice (see my earlier post about how farmers traditionally pounded rice to make it edible thus avoiding milling costs).

Spigzy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:01 pm
But to echo another earlier post- basmati rice cannot be topped. Actually, Indian food can’t be topped. And that’s coming from a Rosbif!

Indian food is tasty and basmati rice is a lot healthier than Khmer or Thai rice but Indian food in general can be unhealthy. A lot of dishes have too much oil, ghee, carbs and sugar. Puri, stuffed paratha, samosa, pakora, Indian sweets. There is quite a problem in the UK of well-off Indian men enjoying these tasty morsels a bit too often, developing massive paunches and dropping dead suddenly in their fifties.