question about goats

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:01 pm

AndyKK wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 pm
that genius wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:33 pm In Africa, goats have been blamed for desertification...they eat even the roots of plants, climb low trees to eat leaves..after they have finished, there is nothing left
So in theory they can eat themselves to death. I was thinking of that other thread. The one with the land for offer for a four year period, on condition of keeping the vegetation down. Goats may probably do it. Because I thought about the conditions there and not even thinking about working it out. I think it would be impossible.

Too wet, Andy - you'd have to build raised sheds to give them some time out of the damp.

that genius · Post by **that genius** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:03 pm

kocdim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:59 pmNext year I plan to by 2-7 heartaches of land.

LOL

kocdim · Post by **kocdim** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:04 pm

that genius wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:03 pm
kocdim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:59 pmNext year I plan to by 2-7 hectares of land.
LOL
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I fixed it it was auto correct mistake. Not mine

that genius · Post by **that genius** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:11 pm

I know, but it was very appropriate, given our location and the context.

Bob tailcat · Post by **Bob tailcat** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:17 pm

You wouldn't be the first barang to try goat farming, nor would you be the last to fail. I'd stil like a couple, like I said, but not really worth the hassle. 100-200 is asking for financial losses.

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:32 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:01 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 pm
that genius wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:33 pm In Africa, goats have been blamed for desertification...they eat even the roots of plants, climb low trees to eat leaves..after they have finished, there is nothing left
So in theory they can eat themselves to death. I was thinking of that other thread. The one with the land for offer for a four year period, on condition of keeping the vegetation down. Goats may probably do it. Because I thought about the conditions there and not even thinking about working it out. I think it would be impossible.
Too wet, Andy - you'd have to build raised sheds to give them some time out of the damp.

Just had a thought and very natural for the habitat of the four legged creature.

No! Sorry it won't last because they need the rock now for cement.

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:08 pm

AndyKK wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:32 pm
StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:01 pm
AndyKK wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:44 pm
that genius wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:33 pm In Africa, goats have been blamed for desertification...they eat even the roots of plants, climb low trees to eat leaves..after they have finished, there is nothing left
So in theory they can eat themselves to death. I was thinking of that other thread. The one with the land for offer for a four year period, on condition of keeping the vegetation down. Goats may probably do it. Because I thought about the conditions there and not even thinking about working it out. I think it would be impossible.
Too wet, Andy - you'd have to build raised sheds to give them some time out of the damp.
Just had a thought and very natural for the habitat of the four legged creature.

No! Sorry it won't last because they need the rock now for cement.

Alternatively, goats like climbing trees:

Oh, wait...

kocdim · Post by **kocdim** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:24 pm

Bob tailcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:17 pm You wouldn't be the first barang to try goat farming, nor would you be the last to fail. I'd stil like a couple, like I said, but not really worth the hassle. 100-200 is asking for financial losses.

The only way to import goats from Australia is 100 heads. Thats the minimum. We will see next year. Maybe I will find somebody to split the imports 35-50 per person. Then Add cows instead of goats. That way they losses if happen would not be so big. But I agree starting with 100 might be little risky. Thats the reason i'm starting this tread also. It will give me time to think. But as I said with proper shelter there is not that many work around the goats (from my experience). Also you can do that with cows. The cows can be imported from Australia full bread. But the problem is they are really big, especially the bull. And might not be that easy to work with. I use to have water buffalo (3 of them). If you dont know how to handle them they will turn around and hit you. Thats the problem with the imported cows.

Bob tailcat · Post by **Bob tailcat** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:35 pm

kocdim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:24 pm
Bob tailcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:17 pm You wouldn't be the first barang to try goat farming, nor would you be the last to fail. I'd stil like a couple, like I said, but not really worth the hassle. 100-200 is asking for financial losses.
The only way to import goats from Australia is 100 heads. Thats the minimum. We will see next year. Maybe I will find somebody to split the imports 35-50 per person. Then Add cows instead of goats. That way they losses if happen would not be so big. But I agree starting with 100 might be little risky.

I'm no farmer, but importing livestock from a totally different climate sounds like madness, expensive madness at that. Best to invest in local breeds, I'd say, they already got the immunity and genetics to survive.

kocdim · Post by **kocdim** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Bob tailcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:35 pm
kocdim wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:24 pm
Bob tailcat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:17 pm You wouldn't be the first barang to try goat farming, nor would you be the last to fail. I'd stil like a couple, like I said, but not really worth the hassle. 100-200 is asking for financial losses.
The only way to import goats from Australia is 100 heads. Thats the minimum. We will see next year. Maybe I will find somebody to split the imports 35-50 per person. Then Add cows instead of goats. That way they losses if happen would not be so big. But I agree starting with 100 might be little risky.
I'm no farmer, but importing livestock from a totally different climate sounds like madness, expensive madness at that. Best to invest in local breeds, I'd say, they already got the immunity and genetics to survive.

Local breads are not that good. Not that much meat. And they dont give that much milk also. I have read many missionaries made big farms with imported animals with no problem. As long as you have proper housing. Most of the time fails because the housing is no good for the animals. People try with improvise shelters, like they do with the local breads. And it will fail. And/Or they dont have enough land/nutrients for the animals.
Because the main income comes from the kids. Example if you multiply 100 heads to 300 heads, thats the main income (or 50 heads to 120 heads). The imported animals are for breading purpose.

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