General Mackevili wrote:Ha! It took all of my willpower to not reply to him where he mentioned my name...

And thx for posting that helpful info above!

I know!

[Mod edit. You have been making wild accusations about this whole case that you haven't come close to backing up , linked to wrong Michael Harris, and are now being aggressive towards Denise. Unacceptable. Do not post on this thread again unless you can back up anything you say in a humanly fashion. Otherwise you'll be banned for a few days. Thx]

It is highly unfortunate that your mother is totally lacking in credibility; I would have loved to believe the good news about reasonable enforcement of the prakas. Similar patterns, His style (if one can call it that)) consists of unverifiable claims made by unsubstantiated sources, reaching pipe dream conclusions. Yes, Your Mother, as you say it is a sensitive issue for many of us and your maniacal claims to inside knowledge do nothing to alleviate that sensitivity. Is there anyone here who has the real inside info and can verify it to a reasonable degree of credibility? Shame of you for using a valuable forum to promote your neurotic goals.

The Ministry of Labor and Vocational Training has recently issued a number of new Prakas (ministerial edicts) regulating workplace hygiene, foreign manpower employment, and labor identification documents.

1. PRAKAS NO. 194, DATED 20 AUGUST 2014, ON WORKING CONDITIONS, OCCUPATIONAL HYGIENE AND SAFETY RULES OF ENTERPRISES, ESTABLISHMENTS AND COMPANIES IN ENTERTAINMENT SERVICE INDUSTRY

Prakas 194 mandates that employers of all enterprises, establishments or companies in the entertainment service industry must fully implement the Labor Law. It aims to: (i) strengthen the implementation of the Labor Law; (ii) affirm the obligation of employers to comply with the Labor Law; and (iii) improve industrial relations between employers and workers.

Employing entities within this industry must comply with the Labor Law, including its provisions and other regulations related to working conditions, hygiene and safety, and employment entitlements, even though the workers are being sent to work at entertainment venues outside.

People who work in this industry enjoy the same legal rights, entitlements, and benefits as other workers, including with respect to work schedule and overtime; procedures for disciplinary actions and termination; prohibition of forced labor, violence, and harassment; and access to health-related education.

Violation of this Prakas is subject to the penalties as specified in Chapter XVI of the Labor Law, not including any other criminal offenses.

2. PRAKAS NO. 195, DATED 20 AUGUST 2014, ON WORK PERMITS AND EMPLOYMENT CARDS FOR FOREIGNERS

Prakas 195 requires that owners or directors of enterprises who need to use foreign workers as well as foreigners entering into Cambodia to work must fulfill the work permit and employment card requirements.

The Prakas defines formalities for initial and extension applications for work permits and employment cards according to different categories of foreigners: (i) foreigners whose entry visa has a limited period of stay; (ii) Vietnamese or Laotians working in the Cambodia-Laos-Vietnam Triangle Development Zone along the border of certain Cambodian provinces; and (iii) foreigners whose permanent stay in Cambodia is permitted.

Payment for extended work permits and employment cards must be made before the end of March of each year.

Violation of this Prakas is subject to the penalties as specified in Chapter XVI of the Labor Law.

3. PRAKAS NO. 196, DATED 20 AUGUST 2014, ON EMPLOYMENT OF FOREIGN LABOR

Prakas 196 requires that employers must give priority to local Cambodians when they recruit staff and that, to the extent that there are no local resources available, they must request advance approval from the Ministry of Labor and Vocational Training to hire foreign workers. A request to employ foreign manpower for the coming year must include the numbers of local and foreign employees, the reasons for hiring foreigners and must be submitted to the Ministry before the end of November each year.

Standard quota for foreign employees against the number of local employees is 10%, of which 3% are office staff, 6% are specialized employees, and 1% are non-specialized employees. A higher quota may be permitted considering the actual needs of the company and each foreigner’s expertise and qualifications.

A written employment contract of each foreigner must be registered with the Ministry (for those who work in Phnom Penh) or at the provincial Department of Labor and Vocational Training (for those who work in a province).

Violation of this Prakas is subject to the penalties as specified in Chapter XVI of the Labor Law.

4. PRAKAS NO. 197, DATED 20 AUGUST 2014, ON EMPLOYMENT CARDS FOR CAMBODIAN WORKERS

Prakas 197 states that owners or directors of enterprises cannot employ any Cambodian workers who do not possess an employment card and must facilitate for them to apply for this document at the Ministry (for those who work in Phnom Penh) or at the provincial Department of Labor and Vocational Training (for those who work in a province).

Together with the employment card, the authority will also issue a new “Cambodian Worker Identification Card”.

Employers must bring the employment card to be notated at the Ministry or at the provincial department, as applicable, within 7 days of the worker starting or stopping work in the enterprise. Notation must also be made whenever there is a change to the worker’s role and wage.

Employers are prohibited from making any remarks on the employment card and must give it to the worker when he/she leaves the organization.

Violation of this Prakas is subject to the penalties as specified in Chapter XVI of the Labor Law.

5. PRAKAS NO. 198, DATED 20 AUGUST 2014, ON USAGE OF RECEIPT FOR APPLICATION AND PAYMENT FOR WORK PERMITS AND EMPLOYMENT CARDS FOR FOREIGNERS

Prakas 198 provides for the use of acknowledgement forms for receipt of the application pack and fee for work permits and employment cards filed and paid for by a foreigner working in Cambodia.

The receipts will serve as official evidence that the foreigner has already applied for the authorization documents as required by law and will be required when the foreigner returns to collect the work permit and employment card. -

See more at: http://www.thecambodiaherald.com/cambod ... KfZ8U.dpuf

Storm in a teacup.

So far has affected precisely fuck all of anything and is likely to be enforced any time in the next wait and see.

Retroactive payments will be charged in exactly never.

Knickersinatwistside.

Yeah, I'll concede. Have to agree with Spooner.

You can pay for what you need to get what you want.

Enforcement is a whole different cup of tea ... and might be selective if ever comes.

Just the overwhelming amount of people posting their retroactive fees and work book/work permits, or otherwise makes me wanna ...

To be honest, I don't really care whether they're enforcing the Laws or not, I don't work in Cambodia. If it starts affecting the ease of obtaining my 12 month visa then I will start to care a little more. I'm only posting the facts and the laws for those who are interested.

...Again...

Ok, they're harping on about the same old thing.

Foreigners working in Cambodia need a valid passport, documentation papers from your employer, a residence permit, you must be fit for your occupation which includes no transmissible diseases (health check), all of which must be approved by the Ministry of Labour.

It also seems to say that sex workers can get a proper visa which allows them to stay permanently, but that can't be right, LoL.

Now you know there was a big meeting about it again today, but we'll obviously have to wait for a translation or until the English papers run it tomorrow.





Here is the Khmenglish version in case you're interested:

"All foreigners who come to work and stay in the Kingdom of Cambodia is a passport letter stay or equivalent travel document because any territory aliens must have legal documents enough so it ". This raised his generals Leakhena immigration director general of the Ministry of Interior.

Leakhena On 17 November 2014, chaired the meeting broadcast media, talking about immigration laws of the Kingdom of Cambodia to foreign people who came to stay working experience in business enterprises in their factories fun casino territory Rieng province bordering Vietnam.

Generals Leakhena says that foreigners entering the country, there are four types of nonimmigrant 1. (typical tourist come into the country and return no later than one month). 2. Types of immigrant 3. foreigners came as investors (sex workers can stay permanently when the business process, but must be followed migrants) 4. Refugees.

Generals also read the Labour Law Article 261 without any foreigner can perform any job without a work permit and that issued by the Ministry in charge of Labour. Foreigners must fulfill other conditions as follows: (a) The employer must have a preview of a valid work permit to perform its mission in Cambodia.
- Foreigners are coming Kingdom with valid legal. - Foreigners must have a valid passport. D. foreigners must have a valid residence permit. - Foreigners must be fit and occupation, and without any transmission. This condition is determined by the Ministry, with the approval of the Ministry in charge of Labour.

Generals also requested documents and contracts to foreigners who come to work and stay in the casino enterprises shall respect the law and immigration law properly work better.

ជនបរទេស​ទាំងអស់​ដែល​ចូល​មក​ធ្វើការ​និង​ស្នាក់​នៅក្នុង​កម្ពុជា​ត្រូវ​មាន​ឯកសារ​គ្រប់គ្រាន់​ទើប​ស្របច្បាប់
ដោយ​: ចន្ទ្រា (ថ្ងៃទី 17 វិច្ឆិកា​ឆ្នាំ 201​​4 04​: 46​: PM​)

«​គ្រប់​ជនបរទេស​ទាំងអស់​ដែល​ចូល​មក​ធ្វើការ និង​ស្នាក់​នៅក្នុង​ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រ​កម្ពុជា ត្រូវ​មាន​លិខិតឆ្លងដែន​លិខិត​ស្នាក់នៅ​ឬ​ឯកសារ​ធ្វើដំណើរ​ដែល​មាន​តំលៃ​ស្មើ​ពីព្រោះ​ការ​ចូល​ទឹកដី​ប្រទេស​ណាមួយ​ជនបរទេស​គ្រប់រូប ត្រូវតែមាន​ឯកសារ​ផ្សេងៗ​គ្រប់គ្រាន់ ទើប​វា​ស្របច្បាប់ "។ នេះ​ជាការ​លើកឡើង​របស់លោក​ឧ​ត្ត​ម​សេនីយ៍​ឯក នៅ​លក្ខណា​អគ្គនាយករង នៃ​អគ្គនាយកដ្ឋាន​អន្តោប្រវេសន៍​ក្រសួងមហាផ្ទៃ​។​

លោក​នៅ​លក្ខណា​នា​រសៀល​ថ្ងៃទី 17 ខែវិច្ឆិកា​ឆ្នាំ 201​​4 បាន​អញ្ជើញ​ជា​អធិបតី​នៅក្នុង​កិច្ចប្រជុំ​ផ្ស​ព្ធ​ផ្សាយ​ពិភាក្សា ស្តីអំពី​ច្បាប់​អន្តោ​រ​ប្រវេសន៍​នៃ​ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រ​កម្ពុជា​ដល់​បណ្តាជន​បរទេស​ដែល​ចូល​មក​ស្នាក់នៅ ប្រកបមុខរបរ​អាជីវ​កម្ម​ធ្វើ​ការងារ​នៅតាម​បណ្តា​រោងចក្រ សហគ្រាស​កាស៊ីណូ​តំបន់​កំសាន្ត​ផ្សេងៗ​ក្នុង​ទឹកដី​ខេត្តស្វាយរៀង​ជាប់​ព្រំដែន​វៀតណាម​។

លោក​ឧ​ត្ត​ម​សេនីយ៍​ឯក​នៅ​លក្ខណា​បាន​មានប្រសាសន៍​បន្ត​ទៀត​ថា​ជនបរទេស​ដែល​ចូល​មក​ប្រទេស​កម្ពុជា​គឺ​មាន​បួន​ប្រភេទ​គឺ 1. ជន​មិនមែន​អន្តោប្រវេសន៍ (​អ្នក​ទេសចរណ៍​ធម្មតា​ចូលមកក្នុង​ប្រទេស​កម្ពុ​ជា ហើយ​ត្រឡប់​ទៅវិញ​មិន​លើសពី​មួយខែ​)​។ ទី 2. ប្រភេទ​មក​ជា​អន្តោ​រ​ប្រវេសន៍ ទី​៣.​ប្រភេទ​ជនបរទេស​ចូលមក​ធ្វើជា​អ្នកវិនិយោគ (​អ្នករកស៊ី​អាច​ស្នាក់នៅ​ជា​អចិន្ត្រៃយ៍​បាន នៅពេល​ការ​រកស៊ី​ដំណើរការ ក៏ប៉ុន្តែ​ត្រូវ​អនុវត្តតាម​អន្តោរ​ប្រវេសន៍​) ទី 4. ជនភៀសខ្លួន​។

លោក​ឧ​ត្ត​ម​សេនីយ៍​ឯក​ក៏បាន​អាន​ច្បាប់​ស្តី​ពី​ការងារ​មាត្រា 261 គ្មាន​ជនបរទេស​ណា​ម្នាក់​អាច​ប្រកបមុខរបរ​ណាមួយ ដោយ​គ្មាន​ប័ណ្ណ​ការងារ​និង​សៀវភៅ​ការងារ ដែល​ចេញ​ឲ្យ​ដោយ​ក្រសួង​ទទួលបន្ទុក​វិស័យ​ការងារ​។ ជនបរទេស​នោះ ត្រូវបំពេញ​បណ្តា​ល័ក្ខខ័ណ្ឌ​ផ្សេងៗ​ទៀត ដូចតទៅ​: ក​-​និយោជក​ត្រូវមាន​ជាមុន​នូវ​ប័ណ្ណ​ការងារ​ត្រឹមត្រូវ ដើម្បី​ប្រកបមុខរបរ​របស់ខ្លួន​នៅ​ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រ​កម្ពុជា​។​
​ខ​-​ជនបរទេស​នោះ​ត្រូវបាន​ចូលមក​ព្រះរាជាណាចក្រ​កម្ពុជា​ដោយ​ត្រឹមត្រូវ​តាមផ្លូវ​ច្បាប់​។ គ​-​ជនបរទេស​នោះ​ត្រូវមាន​លិខិតឆ្លងដែន​ត្រឹមត្រូវ​។ ឃ​-​ជនបរទេស​នោះ​ត្រូវមាន​ប័ណ្ណ​ស្នាក់នៅ​ត្រឹមត្រូវ​។ ង​-​ជនបរទេស​នោះ​ត្រូវមាន​កាយសម្បទា​សមស្រប​និង​មុខរបរ​នោះ​ហើយ​គ្មាន​កើត​ជំងឺឆ្លង​ណាមួយ​ទេ​។ លក្ខខណ្ឌ​នេះ ត្រូវបាន​កំណត់ដោយ​ប្រកាស​ក្រសួងសុខាភិបាល ដោយមាន​ការឯកភាព​ពី​ក្រសួង​ទទួលបន្ទុក​វិស័យ​ការងារ​។

លោក​ឧ​ត្ត​ម​សេនីយ៍​ឯក​ក៏បាន​សំណូមពរ​និង​ធ្វើ​កិច្ចសន្យា​ដល់​ជនបរទេស ដែល​ចូលមក​ធ្វើការ​និង​ស្នាក់​នៅតាម​បណ្តា​កាស៊ីណូ រោងចក្រ​សហគ្រាស​ត្រូវ​គោរព​ច្បាប់​អន្តោ​រ​ប្រវេសន៍ និង​ច្បាប់​ការងារ​ឲ្យ​បាន​ត្រឹមត្រូវ ទើប​ជា​ការ​ប្រសើរ​ក្រុមហ៊ុន

what does this mean for us?

Jacket wrote:what doez this mean for us?

It means you can stay permanently when the business process, but must be followed migrants. I'd say you've got more to fear from the competition than the government.

Has anyone here had to deal with this nonsense yet? I'm sure that most of the expats on this forum don't sustain themselves with a regular allowance from back home and have jobs. Has this had any effect on anybody here?