A positive view
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Re: A positive view
Says the guy who understands reality!explorer wrote:I believe the key is to be honest about reality, then focus on the positive.
Some people seem to think, to be positive, you cant be honest about reality.
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Big question for you, explorer. What if your reality is not the Khmer reality ? Or even the reality of most expats ? We all have different experiences of life in Cambodia and they are not all the same. You can be "honest about your own reality", but that doesn't invalid experiences from others that you know nothing about.
However, please keep posting because your posts give cause to reflect on some things that we take for granted/ don't think about anymore.
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This ^explorer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:25 amAfter you have lived in Phnom Penh for 10 years tell us what you think.hdgh29 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:18 am I often read through these forums, and usually its a depressing tale of crime, drunkenness, muggings, sh*thole bar areas, pedophilia, boredom and lonely expat deaths and suicides. I am sure there is plenty of this in PP, the same as any large city in the world - first world or third world. I come from Auckland NZ and can show you parts of that city that would match PP for poverty, crime and hopelessness. But I have visited Cambo on a few occasions, I have friends with families there, and I plan to retire in PP eventually, and all up I find its a pleasant city with good facilities, not Western standard but getting there. The local people are friendly and helpful to foreigners, the laws are fairly relaxed and can be relaxed even further with small donations (try getting out of a parking ticket in London with the offer of a fiver and you know what I mean), living is cheap compared to just about any other city in the world, the weather is either hot and dry or hot and wet so at least its predictable, and for a lonely single expat the hostess bars can provide somewhere for a cheap beer and a chat with a pretty girl for a few bucks. So whats the point of this post? Only that PP is like any place on earth - its as good or as bad as you want it to be or you make it to be. Just saying.
Re: A positive view
Your reality seems to be a bit different to most people’s though.explorer wrote:I believe the key is to be honest about reality, then focus on the positive.
Some people seem to think, to be positive, you cant be honest about reality.
Once you've read the dictionary, every other book is just a remix.
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Re: A positive view
Isn't it interesting, there have been 44 replies so far to this topic. Shows how strongly people feel, either for or against. The ultimate viewpoint (probably) is that we leave our home country to find something better or just different- I dont mean the NGOs or the high paid engineers or whatever, but guys like us, maybe a failed marriage or two behind us-, getting on a bit but still with a yen for one more adventure. And we wind up in Cambodia, one of the world's most exotic locations and so easy to live well on a small budget provided we learnt to cook and clean for ourselves at some point in our lives.And some other posts have talked about boredom, nothing to do except wait for the evening to sit in a bar with a pretty girl telling us how handsome we are in return for a few drinks. So what would we be doing back in Manchester or Melbourne? Sitting around watching day time tv, off to the pub every night with a few mates.....but without the girls of course. Well I lived in Manchester for a year or so, and another year in Leeds, and grew up on a sink estate in Dartford outside London, and I can confirm.........despite whatever negatives you want to throw up, Cambodia is paradise on earth in comparison.
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Shows how bored people feel, either for or against.
FTFY.
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FTFY.
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Would an example of boredom be close to 3000 posts on CEO in the last 4.5 years? Also not sure if you used that acronym in its truest sense but MTFBWY.
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And imagine if you are on a comfortable or even higher budget? Rather more than easy to live here then..hdgh29 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:49 pm guys like us, maybe a failed marriage or two behind us-, getting on a bit but still with a yen for one more adventure. And we wind up in Cambodia, one of the world's most exotic locations and so easy to live well on a small budget provided we learnt to cook and clean for ourselves at some point in our lives.
I think the boredom till every night is more a monger scenario. Most of the expats I've met that have spent some time here eventually spend less time in the bars (me included..previous playboy till Mrs Cargo made a decent man out of me) Seriously, the bar scene and the superficiality of it tires eventually (aka 'you buy me drink?') for most...maybe not all.hdgh29 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:49 pm And some other posts have talked about boredom, nothing to do except wait for the evening to sit in a bar with a pretty girl telling us how handsome we are in return for a few drinks. So what would we be doing back in Manchester or Melbourne? Sitting around watching day time tv, off to the pub every night with a few mates.....but without the girls of course. Well I lived in Manchester for a year or so, and another year in Leeds, and grew up on a sink estate in Dartford outside London, and I can confirm.........despite whatever negatives you want to throw up, Cambodia is paradise on earth in comparison.
When I visit my home country, I pretty much do the same daytime as I do in PP. Pursue various interests I have via the internet. Rarely watch TV. Going out night time back in my country is problematic..firstly, a lot of my friends are retirees with families that don't want to go out at night. Secondly, if you drive your car you could be up for DUI and risk losing your licence. Else, you pay for relatively expensive Uber/taxi. Thirdly at night it's mainly a younger crowd these days. Contrast that with PP/Cambodia and all those things don't apply and I quite enjoy going out from time to time for drinks and dinner with my friends and GF.
And lastly, as a retiree (albeit a younger one) where am I going to find a younger, cute khmer GF like Mrs Cargo?
Re: A positive view
What's exotic about Cambodia exactly? I'm not saying that as a snappy comment, I just never thought of Cambodia as much of a travel destination. Hawai'i, The Bahamas, etc, that was my idea of exotic, but not SE Asia.
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TBH all them sound exotic to me ...perhaps Hawaii less so coz it strikes me as americanised (caveat: I haven't been there tho).
Your post made me check the meaning of exotic:
Cambridge dictionary: exotic definition: 1. unusual and exciting because of coming (or seeming to come) from far away, especially a tropical country: 2. unusual and specially ..
So, I guess it depends where you come from and your perceptions...
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