cptrelentless wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:31 pm

bangkokhooker wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:38 pm

cptrelentless wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:43 am

bangkokhooker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:35 pm

cptrelentless wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:43 am

They're offering to rent it back now, to the people they kicked off.

I’m pretty sure that’s not true.

Well, you're wrong. My wife went to the meeting.

Quoted for posterity.

If you want to know what exactly was said, paraphrased as I had to spend a good 20 minutes getting the information out of my wife, it is the following:

The fence is coming down
There will be something for all the previous renters to rent, maybe at a discount, the exact details of the deal are undefined
What it will be is undefined and who will pay for the rebuild is undefined
Now watch this drive

So HE did definitely say it would be rented back to the previous owners.

See above.

It’ll be ok.

The gold rush is on.

Chinese property hunters flood into Ochheuteal Beach
23 March 2018
Chinese investment in Sihanoukville has intensified, with investors snapping up properties in Ochheuteal Beach and putting pressure on local and Western-owned businesses.

When Craig Warren and his partners opened Mick & Craig’s Guesthouse in 2002 there were only a handful of buildings – a dive shack and some traditional Khmer houses – on the heavily potholed track that provided access to Ochheuteal Beach. For 16 years the entry road, which runs from the Golden Lions roundabout over a low-slung hill to the beach, has been a conduit of change.

Today, now wider and coated in asphalt, it is one of Sihanoukville’s busiest and most developed tourist strips, lined with hotels, restaurants, bars and travel shops.

Once the main attraction, Ochheuteal Beach has succumb to pollution and most tourists skip it altogether and head straight for the cleaner sands of Otres Beach further down the coast. But a ferry pier built by some enterprising Turks a few years back still brings a steady stream of visitors passing through or overnighting on their way to the tropical islands that lie offshore.

Mick & Craig’s, with its 17 spartan fan rooms and a restaurant turning out cheap and tasty comfort food, is one of the last vestiges of Ochheuteal Beach’s backpacker roots. But having survived a devastating fire in 2013 that gutted the guesthouse, it is now poised to be swept away in a flood of Chinese money pouring into Sihanoukville that is transforming the once sleepy coastal city into a glitzy casino enclave some are calling “Little Macau”.

More than 30 licensed casinos have been built in Sihanoukville, most in the last two years, primarily to help Mainland Chinese gamblers skirt laws that prohibit them from gambling on their own soil. And with the casinos come hotels, restaurants, shops and entertainment facilities catering to the 120,000 Chinese that visited the city last year, as well as the city’s 5,000 Chinese residents and workers.

But the Chinese are not only gambling at the baccarat tables and roulette wheels, they are also placing wagers on real estate. Chinese investors – from executives in suits to middle-class families ostensibly on a beach holiday – are flooding into Sihanoukville to join a land rush, racing to stake their claims on land or rental properties...

https://www.phnompenhpost.com/supplemen ... teal-beach

Is the photo that appears with the article in the Phnom Penh Post really Ochheuteal Beach ?
If so its not a current image!!!!! The beach is dirty and very little sign of tourists on beach at all.

No mention of online gambling being the main reason for casino building.

No mention of the tension between the Chinese and Khmer due to the Chinese offering higher rent for business sites if the Khmer (and Barang) are told their leases up.

The article sadly doesn't qualify as investigatve journalism.

This whole thing leaves a sweet and sour taste in my mouth

that genius wrote:This whole thing leaves a sweet and sour taste in my mouth

Chinese takeaway, available in Sinville, coming to Kampot soon!

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30 licences surely. There’s not 30 casinos yet...

Over 100 granted the go ahead l heard. Around 50 casinos open. You need to go down back streets to find some. A new one down behind Samadera Supermarket for example. Over at Victory Hill and along the beaches nearby lots with more under construction. Some don't have grand frontages and can be missed.

Online gambling is only legal if attached to a casino.Other than the big hotels offering casino action to guests the rest a front for online gambling.

There are already 15 casinos up and running on that map which is a very small part of Sihanoukville.
They are all over town now, and as paparazzi says, they are not all big and flashy.

paparazzi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:33 am Is the photo that appears with the article in the Phnom Penh Post really Ochheuteal Beach ?
If so its not a current image!!!!! The beach is dirty and very little sign of tourists on beach at all.

No mention of online gambling being the main reason for casino building.

No mention of the tension between the Chinese and Khmer due to the Chinese offering higher rent for business sites if the Khmer (and Barang) are told their leases up.

The article sadly doesn't qualify as investigatve journalism.

Might be a life preservation tactic in not digging too deep. We all know its shonky money from China/Asia with the blessing of local officials.... So the journos just repeat the gos from local expats.

At least 15 in the Golden Lions area alone. (5 opposite the Square now)

Drive around this area and the number of casinos about to be completed in the near future will push the number up quickly.

Take a look up near the brewery on the small road leading down to the town and they have them under construction there. One or two may be operating but not sure.

Then around Independence Beach lots more being built. Add Otres into the mix.

Town area 4 maybe more. Very large one near the old market opening soon.

Victory hill has some small ones which can be easily missed leading down to the beach as well as very large casinos. Talk of a big one going in near the port.

I stand corrected the number at 50 on reflection (included ones about to be completed) but at least 30 is probably right that are operating today.

End of the year should see 50 plus.