NGO's more harm than good? Or more good than harm?

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NGO's more harm than good? Or more good than harm?

More good than harm
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More harm than good
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50%
Don't know as I haven't got enough information to make a decision
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17%
 
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Interesting short film where a Cambodian tells how he helped in his community. Comments?
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almafudd wrote:Why don't NGO's EMPLOY child actors to play the part of the poverty porn children for their fundraising activities?

The actors are happy (they get paid), society is happy (no exploitation of children) and the NGO is happy (they have their poverty porn advertising).
Actually, that is the way this particular debate was originally framed: "Does Using Paid Models Change the Ethics of Poverty Porn?"
https://storify.com/WhyDev/is-it-ok-to- ... #publicize
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There was an article published by ABC just yesterday which discusses whether orphanages in Cambodia do more harm than good. About an Australian lady who sets up an orphanage, then realizes most of them aren't orphans and the charity money raised through donations is being stolen.
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Tara Winkler realised setting up the orphanage may have been a mistake when she discovered most of the children were not orphans.

At the time, the 2011 NSW Young Australian of the Year was a media darling - a few years earlier while backpacking in Cambodia she had done what many young Aussies do: orphanage volunteer tourism, (or 'voluntourism'). She volunteered at an orphanage.

Back in Australia she raised money for the orphaned children she had known.

Then she discovered that orphanage was embezzling the money she had raised, and was keeping the children in poverty in order to win the sympathy of bright-eyed foreigners like herself. The money wasn't going to the children, it was being stolen by...


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General Mackevili wrote:The money wasn't going to the children, it was being stolen by...[/i]
You don't know do you? lol
I think it was some of the parents getting the kids to steal things for them, not just money probably or is that another one?. There are a hell of a lot of dodgy orphanages etc in Cambodia. But some of them are good. I want to hear the good stories too.
Unfortunately I only have bad ones to tell. Like a friend who ended up living next to an orphanage run by Cambodians in SNV. When they went back to Europe, they brought a lot of kids clothes with them to give to the kids. They were seen dressed in them for only one day. The clothes then disappeared, never to be seen on the kids again.
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juansweetpotato wrote:
General Mackevili wrote:The money wasn't going to the children, it was being stolen by...[/i]
You don't know do you? lol
I think it was some of the parents getting the kids to steal things for them, not just money probably or is that another one?. There are a hell of a lot of dodgy orphanages etc in Cambodia. But some of them are good. I want to hear the good stories too.
Unfortunately I only have bad ones to tell. Like a friend who ended up living next to an orphanage run by Cambodians in SNV. When they went back to Europe, they brought a lot of kids clothes with them to give to the kids. They were seen dressed in them for only one day. The clothes then disappeared, never to be seen on the kids again.
Just look at the number of orphanages in neighboring countries compared to the number in Cambodia. There's been no war since 1998, the rate of parent-loss should be roughly similar to the rest of SE Asia. I'd suggest that the vast majority of surplus orphanages in Cambodia are bent, for-profit exercises.

The Sunrise one, who's CEO K440 was grilling, has been earning much more from donations than it spends on projects; according to the documents obtained by K440 it was up to $1 million a year in what could only be termed profit. The CEO was posting about attending various conferences while staying at tropical resorts. Not hard to put two and two together. Local owners probably reinvest the funds in extending their own houses and buying more land.
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As a not-for-profit I once worked for in this country once said, "just because we can't make a profit doesn't mean we can't make a surplus."
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LTO wrote:As a not-for-profit I once worked for in this country once said, "just because we can't make a profit doesn't mean we can't make a surplus."
That's sounds pretty damning. Surplus for what? Did you vote? I wonder which way?

I can see that it would be necessary to look 3 years into the future for funding. These kids need more like 11 years funding minimum if they are going to achieve something on an educational level. Most orphans are over the age of 5 according to that UNICEF doc, so I'm basing the assumption on that as it would bring the kids up to the age of 16.
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