Modest Proposal 2

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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by LTO » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:30 am

I wonder whether it would actually lead to less glue use amongst the individual street children or just force them to beg more (or whatever they do to make coin) in order to go buy more glue. Would it reduce harm or would it increase risk by forcing them to step up their begging (or whatever) activities, while not actually reducing drug use?
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by Otis » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:23 am

These glue kid don't beg much or at least not very effectively. They are to far gone to have the needed social skills to do so.

Further, doing nothing is the worst possible solution that has now yielded the worst possible result. Go and look.
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by frank lee bent » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:15 am

There are certainly a lot of them!
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by LTO » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:52 am

Otis wrote:These glue kid don't beg much or at least not very effectively. They are to far gone to have the needed social skills to do so.
As I said, "or whatever they do to make coin."
Otis wrote:Further, doing nothing is the worst possible solution that has now yielded the worst possible result. Go and look.
Disagree. Doing something is not always better than doing nothing. Witness the effects of orphanage voluntourism. Depends on what you do.
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by Otis » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:31 am

"Doing something is not always better than doing nothing. Witness the effects of orphanage voluntourism. Depends on what you do."

There is no downside to grabbing away the glue bags from the kids. Doing nothing is the equivalent of handing the glue bags TO the kids.
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by LTO » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:48 am

You may very well be right, but that is the question. Is there possibly a downside? As I said, "Would it reduce harm or would it increase risk by forcing them to step up their begging (or whatever) activities, while not actually reducing drug use?"
Otis wrote:Doing nothing is the equivalent of handing the glue bags TO the kids.
No it isn't. Doing nothing is no more equivalent to giving the kids glue than not volunteering at orphanages is equivalent to making kids into orphans.
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by Otis » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:14 pm

Your suggestion here? Stroppy's suggestion here h?

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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by Garry.Crabtree » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:22 pm

I used to be a glue sniffer in the 70's, but nowadays I just find it rather tacky.
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by phuketrichard » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:46 pm

Garry.Crabtree wrote:I used to be a glue sniffer in the 70's, but nowadays I just find it rather tacky.
Do u recall the popping sound in ur head?
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Re: Modest Proposal 2

Post by StroppyChops » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:51 pm

Otis wrote:Your suggestion here? Stroppy's suggestion here h?

The ears of the world await.
I suggest that you go be the change you want to see in the world. You strike me as a guy that cares enough about these very real issues to want to see a better life for these kids, respect. Get something off the ground and I'll come and do it with you. How about organising a food drop, a female chaperone, and some basic medical supplies and we go and do an exchange program some nights?
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