pczz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:10 am Funny how we always stick the boot in on Christian organsiations. Sometimes they deserve, sometimes not, but where is all the Muslim Aid for Syrian refugees? how many refuges have muslim countries taken from Myanmar? you don't see massive airflifts from other religions or governments when the shit hits and they never get criticised?

Good post.

Honestly, in a lot of ways, I envy people who can find faith in this world. It's a harsh place. If I could believe the things that you're supposed to believe, things would probably be a lot easier. That's probably the point, I guess. Too bad I'm such a cynical bastard.

I respect people with faith.

I just don't want to hear about it, I want to see it.

And many are doing it for themselves, not for the converts..ooh what a good Christian am I

I consider "faith" to be blight on humanity. Christian or not. I had hoped humans were smart.

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Wow. a whole $200, million. that must have bankrupted the Arab world. With regards to rohingya in Pakistan, they are being sent back, not resettled.

pczz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:10 am Funny how we always stick the boot in on Christian organsiations.

Not so surprising. The OP title is Orphans, AIDS and Jesus in Cambodia .This well-meaning woman is in Cambodia looking after the sick and homeless. But, she is a Christian. She is converting Cambodian Buddhists who are sick with HIV to Christianity, which doesn't seem entirely ethical.
However, Grandma Ens is very well-liked by the supreme authorities. They are happy with her work in Cambodia. She has even received the high honour of Cambodian citizenship.

There are also Muslim organizations who operate in Cambodia. I know they build mosques and schools. I don't know if they try to convert sick people. I'm sure they have an agenda, but AFAIK, they stick to helping out Cambodian Muslims - the Kuwaitis and the Saudis do a lot of the mosque and school building, and the Malaysians invest in health and education. It would be interesting to know more about this. We don't hear much about aid and charities that are non-western.

The muslim charities build mosques and schools in the same way as Christian build them, as a means to convert. is it intrinsically wrong to try and convert people to another religion? Is that no part of free speech? the point I was trying to make, rather badly" is that rich muslim nations are conspicuously absent when there is a crisis in another country involving their religion. it is the west that is expected to take the refugees for resettlement and fund relief. That is not to say that muslim nations do nothing, but they do not pull their weight. personally I think religion is a bad thing, it has causes more conflict, war and death throughout history than any anything else

John Bingham wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:23 am

pczz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:05 am Wow. a whole $200, million. that must have bankrupted the Arab world. With regards to rohingya in Pakistan, they are being sent back, not resettled.

That is one single organization. You might as well admit your basic premise was wrong and based on prejudice rather than any facts. Where is your source for that statement about Pakistan?

I do not accept it is wrong. I do not see Saudi Arabia or Malaysia, or Indonesai or the UAE or iran rushing forward to resettle refugees from Syria or send aid to Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or sudan.

I think a major reason for that is that islam is not secular. the governmets are aligned with one sect or the other and it is all pervasive.they fight each other over religious differences which shape their policies

pczz wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:23 am The muslim charities build mosques and schools in the same way as Christian build them, as a means to convert. is it intrinsically wrong to try and convert people to another religion? Is that no part of free speech?

personally I think religion is a bad thing, it has causes more conflict, war and death throughout history than any anything else

I think you answered your own question.
If it's bad, then spreading it around is not good.