Man sells cafe belonging to someone else...

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Re: Man sells cafe belonging to someone else...

Post by markd » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:10 am

once again this highlights the importance of using a licensced registerd land business broker solicitor lawyer type dude
there is no such thing as due diligence without the above
thru shit to more shit
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Post by timmydownawell » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:48 am

What kind of idiot would hand over cash for a business and not get the business licence officially thumbprinted etc? The owner says she actually knows the chick who "bought" it. If that's the case, wouldn't she have been aware that Ellen was the actual owner?
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Post by Beerinthemorning » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am

hanno wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:20 am
Beerinthemorning wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:59 am
frank lee bent wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:37 am
Ellen got no money. She is acknowledged as the owner by Kampot expats.
Matt Morrison was left in charge as manager when Ellen went to UK to support a family member with cancer.
Matt has (allegedly ) sold it to someone, deleted his FB and done a runner.
Amazingly, the thread has not been locked or deleted.
Yet.

they have been increased reports of westerners been scammed , duped or cheated in KoW as if late.
Nothing new here, which you should know seeing how you are a long-term expat in Cambodia :facepalm: .
ive been to KoW like 40 times no lie.

actually now my favourite place is poi pet.
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Post by JessB52 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:03 pm

Ellen is most definitely NOT benefiting from this, or involved in anyway this being a scam.

I know her relatively well and she is not the kind of person to do this to someone. Her 'fault' is being too trusting, but debatable if that's truly a fault.

Awful that she's being done over in this way.
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Re: Man sells cafe belonging to someone else...

Post by Beerinthemorning » Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:06 pm

JessB52 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:03 pm
Ellen is most definitely NOT benefiting from this, or involved in anyway this being a scam.

I know her relatively well and she is not the kind of person to do this to someone. Her 'fault' is being too trusting, but debatable if that's truly a fault.

Awful that she's being done over in this way.
western women getting scammed by a western guy must be about the first case in history
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Post by timmydownawell » Fri May 18, 2018 8:20 pm

So what happened after this? Unless Ellen went back to reopen the business (and wrangle the lease back) would the landlord just have cancelled the new lease, and taken possession of whatever was left? It's not like the new "owner" would have been paying the rent. Did she just lose it all?
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Re: Man sells cafe belonging to someone else...

Post by angkorjohn » Sat May 19, 2018 11:41 am

timmydownawell wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 8:20 pm
So what happened after this? Unless Ellen went back to reopen the business (and wrangle the lease back) would the landlord just have cancelled the new lease, and taken possession of whatever was left? It's not like the new "owner" would have been paying the rent. Did she just lose it all?
My guess is that she only told half the story. If I remember the thread correctly then she never gave a clear answer about the documents and the business licence etc. he probably had all the correct documents to sell the business (as he was supposed to sell it when she was away) and he just stiffed her on the sale and she wasn't in a position to do anything as all she had was a verbal agreement with the guy which is worth nothing in a court of law.
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Re: Man sells cafe belonging to someone else...

Post by epidemiks » Sat May 19, 2018 12:32 pm

angkorjohn wrote:
timmydownawell wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 8:20 pm
So what happened after this? Unless Ellen went back to reopen the business (and wrangle the lease back) would the landlord just have cancelled the new lease, and taken possession of whatever was left? It's not like the new "owner" would have been paying the rent. Did she just lose it all?
My guess is that she only told half the story. If I remember the thread correctly then she never gave a clear answer about the documents and the business licence etc. he probably had all the correct documents to sell the business (as he was supposed to sell it when she was away) and he just stiffed her on the sale and she wasn't in a position to do anything as all she had was a verbal agreement with the guy which is worth nothing in a court of law.
IIRC the sale was valid as he he acting as her representative, but just ran off without giving the owner her agreed share.
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Post by timmydownawell » Sat May 19, 2018 2:40 pm

She said on FB that he had convinced the landlord to change the lease to his name without her knowledge, and had forged the documents for the business' "sale".

Regardless I guess she is screwed, but she might have been able to salvage the business if she had returned immediately and retaken possession.
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Post by phuketrichard » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:14 pm

a new twist from FB
Karen Simon Reed shared a link to the group: Kampot Noticeboard.
1 hr ·

So glad that Ellie and Ed are not letting their tragedy keep them from moving forward. Happy to hear there is a campaign to get Ellie's 2.0 up and going. I appreciate how you presented the budget/ how the funds would be used. Wishing you well!
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My name is Ellie Gleeson, and together with my co-investor Ed Weinberg I lost the business I started in Cambodia in 2013. I lost it by trusting our café’s manager and my former friend, who systematically deceived us while preparing to sell our business. Two months ago, he received $30,000 in cash for our furniture, kitchen equipment and for facilitating a lease transfer on the home of Ellie’s café, after which he fled Cambodia to points unknown.
read more on the gofund me page

https://www.gofundme.com/help-us-rebuil ... tolen-cafe

OK:
personally i feel bad for her, but no way would i fund someone else s business,
but thats just me
If i was going to help someone it would be a poor khmer that was fucked over

PS: there trying to raise $9,000 which is what they feel they need to get back up and running,
than why did someone pay $30,000?
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