Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes Away

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Re: Khmer440 co-founder Peter Hogan/Keeping_It_Riel Passes A

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John Bingham wrote: The food is for the people attending the ceremony, as I already pointed out. ....
I always thought that this kind of ceremonies are held in order to satisfy/calm down ghosts/deities. Even though some ignorant Cambodian monks and bystanders are devouring the alms.....it's for the ghosts, to prevent them from biting you in the ass.
Und der Haifisch der hat Tränen
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht

In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
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You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
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What Francis said. It's for the spirits of the deceased (Potty, spelling here) who are believed to be in a perpetual state of hunger. It's more of an animist belief than a Buddhist belief.
So only the living are in a position of feeding the hungry spirits of their loved ones, which is why food offering is such a big deal at pagodas.
The incense burning is actually meant to call the spirits to feed and then the living can take the food for their own consumption after the incense burnt out.

So Peter's wife was sorry she couldn't provide his spirit with food and give him a timely proper funeral as she believes that his soul is stranded on Earth, hungry.
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John Bingham wrote:You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
John Bingham.....please....you are overdoing it. If I call people "ignorant" then I do it because I'm convinced that they are. Do not defend people/nations/religions just because you momentarily think that they fit your agenda or your mindset. Stay open and be fair.

Joon, thanx for your comment.
Und der Haifisch der hat Tränen
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht

In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
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Although, for the record, I concurred with the first and last part of your post. I don't think it's good form to call monks and locals ignorant in that instance.
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Joon wrote: I don't think it's good form to call monks and locals ignorant in that instance.
Yeah well, in that instance...perhaps you are right, but generally speaking...calling monks "ignorant" is quite appropriate and it IS very good form because it's hard for every normal living and thinking creature to accept their form of hypocrisy, stupidity and contemptuous behaviour. There is NO reason to defend them.
Und der Haifisch der hat Tränen
Und die laufen vom Gesicht
Doch der Haifisch lebt im Wasser
So die Tränen sieht man nicht

In der Tiefe ist es einsam
Und so manche Träne fliesst
Und so kommt es dass das Wasser
In den Meeren salzig ist
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Joon wrote:What Francis said. It's for the spirits of the deceased (Potty, spelling here) who are believed to be in a perpetual state of hunger. It's more of an animist belief than a Buddhist belief.
So only the living are in a position of feeding the hungry spirits of their loved ones, which is why food offering is such a big deal at pagodas.
The incense burning is actually meant to call the spirits to feed and then the living can take the food for their own consumption after the incense burnt out.

So Peter's wife was sorry she couldn't provide his spirit with food and give him a timely proper funeral as she believes that his soul is stranded on Earth, hungry.
Good post, Joon.
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John Bingham wrote:You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
Nope, he thought right. U mad bro?
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randompeeps wrote:
John Bingham wrote:You thought wrong. Now please stop calling other people ignorant, you're embarrassing yourself.
Nope, he thought right. U mad bro?
No, because I was referring to the food on the tables, and had already posted this on the previous page:
Have you ever heard of Pchum Benh for example, or noticed the way people leave food and drinks at spirit-houses and shrines?
That food would be for the spirits, not the diseased that Dotty mentioned.
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John Bingham wrote:No, because I was referring to the food on the tables, and had already posted this on the previous page:
Oh, you mean those big funeral feasts where everyone gathers around the ashes/corpse at the pagoda to have a big hearty meal? Yeah, uh, that doesn't happen... The food is for the dead person. The only big meal people have is at the 100 day ceremony.
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