fax wrote:

Barang chgout wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:16 pm So what if a mate of mine comes to stay for a holiday and helps me building for a couple of weeks?
50 shades.

What if your mate doesn't get through the border because he doesn't have $1000?

Do you often have immigration at your house asking about your guests?

Yep

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Kammekor wrote:

Barang chgout wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:16 pm So what if a mate of mine comes to stay for a holiday and helps me building for a couple of weeks?
50 shades.

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Running a construction business? If your mate is gone, will another 'mate' replace him, continuing this way for about 10 years?

While there's loads of shades I think this case is actually a clear one.

No mate, just building an operational environment, main building and two guest rooms done. External laundry, 2 bathrooms.
Still hafta build sheds, garage, etc.

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phuketrichard wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:21 pm "Commenting has been turned off for this post."

Ramon quickly deleted his post from the groups where he wasn't getting the responses he wanted. Anything not met with sympathy and speculation about what to do disappeared at the speed of light.

Is he a manager of The Flicks or something? He's making a lot of noise about this and psychotic Brits chased by German shepherds. Does he not know it's election season?

Apparently he's some kind of next generation begpacker. Does he have a business license? Does he have a valid passport, visa, work permit? Does The Flicks meet foreign employment quotas? Is it a registered NGO? If not, is The Flicks paying its taxes? I want to know more, he's attracting the wrong type of attention.

Ramon Stoppelenburg (born December 20, 1976) is a Dutch traveller known for using "cyber-begging" as a means to travel around the world[1]. He currently resides in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, where he runs a movie theater[2].

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramon_Stoppelenburg

prahocalypse now wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:14 pm

that genius wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:10 pm What does Ramon do?

He could pay Cambodians to work in his cinema instead of flying in volunteers from abroad.

But that would not be in the spirit of "cyber-begging"

Kammekor wrote:

Barang chgout wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:37 pm

Kammekor wrote:

Barang chgout wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:16 pm So what if a mate of mine comes to stay for a holiday and helps me building for a couple of weeks?
50 shades.

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Running a construction business? If your mate is gone, will another 'mate' replace him, continuing this way for about 10 years?

While there's loads of shades I think this case is actually a clear one.

No mate, just building an operational environment, main building and two guest rooms done. External laundry, 2 bathrooms.
Still hafta build sheds, garage, etc.

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Then your modus operandi is quite different from 'Flick's'.

Yeah, I reckon Gavin would have some idea of the legal definition of work, but to me it seems a very hard thing to define.
I've dug enough trenches for other guys, getting paid and hated it. Yet on the weekend, at home, I'd pick up the shovel happily and shift a few tons of dirt.

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Ramon Stoppelenburg
Yesterday, 9:44
What strings are here to pull while my KENYAN friend is stopped at the PP airport immigration desk at this moment, with them telling her that she needs $1000 in cash or she will not be allowed into the country? She has a valid e-visa, letter of invitation to volunteer, all my details, and -oh this should be mentioned - she is black....

She has been handed a deportation order just now and is asked to fly back to Malaysia within 3 hours "or you go to prison".

She's sent the gate where a 1.30pm flight flies back to KL. "They completely refused to talk to me and they got three guards to escort me."

UPDATE 2pm:

She refused the flight and is asking to be detained so she can appeal the order. Now nobody wants to detain her....

UPDATE 6pm:

So my supposed-to-be-volunteer refused a return flight and asked to repeal the order for deportation. She asked to be detained, but at the airport they ran out of options. She was moved to the Removal Center at the Immigration Offices compound across the street from the airport this after noon.

Note, this is where only and a lot of BLACK people are holed up in 10m2 cells.

I was there when she arrived but was not allowed to talk to her, because she had been so rude at the airport. They thought she was taking videos and photos of all officers involved, while she was actually video chatting with me and I could follow entire conversations where they SCREAMED at her, while she just sat calm and ask for appeal. Over and over again. So she was never rude at the airport.

I was asked to leave the Immigration compound and was told by some guy in a really fancy gold uniform not to stand outside of that office. I am free to stand anywhere, especially if it is a public domain where people can go, so I asked if I was trespassing. He couldn't answer that, so I decided to remain.

This uniform asshole started screaming at me like a little baby that didn't get his candy. "You go now! You go! You can not stand here! Go!" I asked him if he was alright and if I did something wrong. Please detain me or arrest me if I do something wrong, officer. Make my day. That made them all move her to another block further away.

I stayed around until finally a big boss of the Removal Center appeared back from lunch at 4.30pm (!). Finally had a reasonable conversation with anybody for the first time.

He explained to me that, for years, they have special requirements in force for certain people from certain countries: they need to show their reason for their visit (she had my official stamped invitation letter), show sufficient funds (she had $250 in her wallet, statements from her bank that she has sufficient funds) and a valid visa (yes, you can volunteer on a tourist visa). It all came down that it had to be $1000 in cash.

I asked the big boss where this was publicly announced, on a website of the immigration department, somewhere on Facebook. Because if I had known, I would have prepared any visitor from said African countries to prepare more. I had never found such stuff in writing and even my Kenyan friend living in Phnom Penh suggested that she should just have 2-300 dollars in cash with her.

She had a valid passport, valid visa and the statements and invitation letter at hand but they never looked at them. It all just stopped with KENYA. And she's BLACK.

She was never offered any conversation or not even a 5 minute talk with anybody in charge. When I told big boss that she kind of fulfills the necessary requirements that were never looked at, he was also surprised. "It's not that we single out black people, but it's all those black people (pointing out at the cells behind him) that cause trouble all the time." He had no idea he actually said the most racist thing ever.

Perhaps, because the big Immigration General wasn't available anymore today, she gets 5 minutes to talk and explain her situation and show her necessary proof, she might be able to stay and enter the country officially. However even the big boss at the Removal Center was not sure about that. "If a deportation order is signed, it is signed". Then you go.

When I asked if everything would be alright if she would fly back to Cambodia the next day with $1000 in cash, he chuckled a bit. "She better not come here."

Welcome people of all races, except from countries like Nigeria, Cameroon, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda and such. They really don't want you in Cambodia.

I could talk to her for only few minutes and told her what her last options were.

With nothing left to do, I decided to empty out the entire Blue Pumpkin deli at the airport and returned to the Removal Center to give out food and water to my friend and all her cell mates. Everything was checked first before distributed to hopeful hands sticking out from the cells.

With little options for her left, she'll probably get on a flight back to KL tomorrow. To never return to Cambodia ever again.