just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
I watched both parts of "Leaving Neverland" and also watched the interview after the show, with Oprah and the two men who claim they were molested as children.
Both men seem believable and credible.
The man who went on to became a famous choreographer and dancer, choreographer for the likes of Brittney Spears and other musical groups, seems more comfortable with himself, but the other fellow seems absolutely troubled with all aspects of MJ's abuse.
For example, he opens a small jewelry box full of large gold rings, and tells the story of going into jewelry stores with MJ--who said the rings were for a woman, but the boy's hands were the same size.
Once at home on the ranch, MJ would make the young boy "earn" the rings.
Descriptions of the abuse were similar with both men--MJ slowly grooming both boys and their families, buying them things and trips, flying them around, inviting both starstruck boys to appear on stage with him.
The mother of the choreographer seems like an idiot, still a bit starstruck. She didn't want to view the part of the movie in which the sexual activity was described. She "wasn't ready" for that. I find her abhorrent and culpable in her naiveté.
The mother of the other young man seems tortured and repentant--admitting at the film's ending, "I fucked up."
Long and short of it, there is no way in hell any parent should allow their child to sleep with adults. Even if the adults are rich, famous, and persuasive. Huge error.
Most people in my social circle have thought he was a pedophile for a long, long time. His fans are indeed blind and a bit odd--kind of like the DJT supporters, I suppose.
Both men seem believable and credible.
The man who went on to became a famous choreographer and dancer, choreographer for the likes of Brittney Spears and other musical groups, seems more comfortable with himself, but the other fellow seems absolutely troubled with all aspects of MJ's abuse.
For example, he opens a small jewelry box full of large gold rings, and tells the story of going into jewelry stores with MJ--who said the rings were for a woman, but the boy's hands were the same size.
Once at home on the ranch, MJ would make the young boy "earn" the rings.
Descriptions of the abuse were similar with both men--MJ slowly grooming both boys and their families, buying them things and trips, flying them around, inviting both starstruck boys to appear on stage with him.
The mother of the choreographer seems like an idiot, still a bit starstruck. She didn't want to view the part of the movie in which the sexual activity was described. She "wasn't ready" for that. I find her abhorrent and culpable in her naiveté.
The mother of the other young man seems tortured and repentant--admitting at the film's ending, "I fucked up."
Long and short of it, there is no way in hell any parent should allow their child to sleep with adults. Even if the adults are rich, famous, and persuasive. Huge error.
Most people in my social circle have thought he was a pedophile for a long, long time. His fans are indeed blind and a bit odd--kind of like the DJT supporters, I suppose.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
Good for a laugh.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
Is there any way to watch this without buying it?
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
It's on YouTube
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
Michael Jackson is a turbo nonce. Latoya's outs him on national TV.
'One child grows up to be, somebody who just loves to learn and another child grows up to be, somebody you just love to burn. Mum loves the both of them, you see it's in the blood.'
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Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:
The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:
The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
If ur going to post, post the whole correct quote, not take it out of context!!and she than .....Barbra Streisand apologizes after sparking outrage
In her apology statement, Streisand she had not chosen her words carefully, and had not intended to dismiss the trauma of Jackson’s accusers.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
Barbara Streisand has some thoughts:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/arts ... ckson.html
“His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has.”
“You can say ‘molested,’ but those children, as you heard say, they were thrilled to be there,” she continued. “They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.” ~ Streisand
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/arts ... ckson.html
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
If you want to be boring about it sure..phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:45 amclutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:
The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3If ur going to post, post the whole correct quote, not take it out of context!!and she than .....Barbra Streisand apologizes after sparking outrage
In her apology statement, Streisand she had not chosen her words carefully, and had not intended to dismiss the trauma of Jackson’s accusers.
Anyway, she's only apologised coz of the outrage...I'm sure she meant every word of it.
Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"
He was a pedo-phaggot with terrible music who wanted us to believe the little boys in his bed were just his play buddies . WHF ! What 50 year old man has 7 year old buddies . On top of all that his music was shite !
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