just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Cinnamoncat » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:25 am

I watched both parts of "Leaving Neverland" and also watched the interview after the show, with Oprah and the two men who claim they were molested as children.

Both men seem believable and credible.

The man who went on to became a famous choreographer and dancer, choreographer for the likes of Brittney Spears and other musical groups, seems more comfortable with himself, but the other fellow seems absolutely troubled with all aspects of MJ's abuse.

For example, he opens a small jewelry box full of large gold rings, and tells the story of going into jewelry stores with MJ--who said the rings were for a woman, but the boy's hands were the same size.

Once at home on the ranch, MJ would make the young boy "earn" the rings.

Descriptions of the abuse were similar with both men--MJ slowly grooming both boys and their families, buying them things and trips, flying them around, inviting both starstruck boys to appear on stage with him.

The mother of the choreographer seems like an idiot, still a bit starstruck. She didn't want to view the part of the movie in which the sexual activity was described. She "wasn't ready" for that. I find her abhorrent and culpable in her naiveté.

The mother of the other young man seems tortured and repentant--admitting at the film's ending, "I fucked up."

Long and short of it, there is no way in hell any parent should allow their child to sleep with adults. Even if the adults are rich, famous, and persuasive. Huge error.

Most people in my social circle have thought he was a pedophile for a long, long time. His fans are indeed blind and a bit odd--kind of like the DJT supporters, I suppose.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Username Taken » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:36 pm

Good for a laugh.

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by RickyBobby » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:05 am

Is there any way to watch this without buying it?
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Sidewalker » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 am

RickyBobby wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:05 am
Is there any way to watch this without buying it?
It's on YouTube
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by AdamS » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:53 am

Michael Jackson is a turbo nonce. Latoya's outs him on national TV.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by clutchcargo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am

Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:

The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by phuketrichard » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:45 am

clutchcargo wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am
Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:

The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
and she than .....Barbra Streisand apologizes after sparking outrage
In her apology statement, Streisand she had not chosen her words carefully, and had not intended to dismiss the trauma of Jackson’s accusers.
If ur going to post, post the whole correct quote, not take it out of context!!
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by RickyBobby » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:29 am

Barbara Streisand has some thoughts:
“His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has.”

“You can say ‘molested,’ but those children, as you heard say, they were thrilled to be there,” she continued. “They both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them.” ~ Streisand


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/arts ... ckson.html
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by clutchcargo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:11 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:45 am
clutchcargo wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:29 am
Oh dear......Barbara Streisand said:

The two men who have accused Michael Jackson of sexually abusing them when they were children were “thrilled” to be with him, and that the alleged abuse “didn’t kill them.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/barb ... uck-2019-3
and she than .....Barbra Streisand apologizes after sparking outrage
In her apology statement, Streisand she had not chosen her words carefully, and had not intended to dismiss the trauma of Jackson’s accusers.
If ur going to post, post the whole correct quote, not take it out of context!!
If you want to be boring about it sure..

Anyway, she's only apologised coz of the outrage...I'm sure she meant every word of it.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by sklmeera » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:41 pm

He was a pedo-phaggot with terrible music who wanted us to believe the little boys in his bed were just his play buddies . WHF ! What 50 year old man has 7 year old buddies . On top of all that his music was shite !
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