just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by xandreu » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:12 pm

The only thing I find strange about the whole saga is that there are still many people who refuse to believe that MJ was a nonce. It's been as clear as day to me since that 'Living with Michael Jackson' documentary first aired what, 15 years ago now.

If he was a normal person, your neighbor say, and you noticed that he was always having young boys (never girls) staying over at his house (and always the cute looking boys - never the fat, ugly, spotty types - always the McCaulay Caulkin types) for sleepovers, and he openly admitted to you that they shared his bed, you'd be straight down the social services. I know I would.

I watched a YouTube video of someone breaking down the 'Living with Michael Jackson' documentary, and nothing about is normal behavior of a man in his late 30's. He's sat there talking with a young boy next to him, holding hands with him, with the young boy (who looked about 13/14) resting his head on MJ's shoulders. The way a loving girlfriend would support her boyfriend when being interviewed and asked difficult questions. What 13/14 year old boy acts like that? Never mind a man in his late 30's. They're talking about the boy sleeping in MJ's bed, and the boy let's slip that he's not that happy about it, but the boy says that MJ always says to him "If you loved me you would" - meaning you would sleep with me. MJ then goes on later to say that he never forces the boys to sleep with him?? "If you loved me you would" ??

Not only was MJ 100% a nonce, he didn't even bother to make any attempt to hide it. There's such a thing called 'hiding in plain sight' - he wasn't even hiding. How anyone can honestly put their hand on their heart and still deny that MJ was a pedo is beyond me.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Khartoum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:22 pm

Didn't we all know this 20 years ago? There was that terrible 'joke' back then-

What time is bedtime at Neverland?

When the big hand touches the little hand.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Queef » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:25 pm

xandreu wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:12 pm
The only thing I find strange about the whole saga is that there are still many people who refuse to believe that MJ was a nonce. It's been as clear as day to me since that 'Living with Michael Jackson' documentary first aired what, 15 years ago now.

If he was a normal person, your neighbor say, and you noticed that he was always having young boys (never girls) staying over at his house (and always the cute looking boys - never the fat, ugly, spotty types - always the McCaulay Caulkin types) for sleepovers, and he openly admitted to you that they shared his bed, you'd be straight down the social services. I know I would.

I watched a YouTube video of someone breaking down the 'Living with Michael Jackson' documentary, and nothing about is normal behavior of a man in his late 30's. He's sat there talking with a young boy next to him, holding hands with him, with the young boy (who looked about 13/14) resting his head on MJ's shoulders. The way a loving girlfriend would support her boyfriend when being interviewed and asked difficult questions. What 13/14 year old boy acts like that? Never mind a man in his late 30's. They're talking about the boy sleeping in MJ's bed, and the boy let's slip that he's not that happy about it, but the boy says that MJ always says to him "If you loved me you would" - meaning you would sleep with me. MJ then goes on later to say that he never forces the boys to sleep with him?? "If you loved me you would" ??

Not only was MJ 100% a nonce, he didn't even bother to make any attempt to hide it. There's such a thing called 'hiding in plain sight' - he wasn't even hiding. How anyone can honestly put their hand on their heart and still deny that MJ was a pedo is beyond me.
He's always been a pedo. There was a video on WSHH in which he was being interrogated by police (someone took the video down recently). When he was asked if he had molested a young boy, he had that guilty smirk on his face, chuckled, and claimed "I'm not gay". His lawyer started freaking out and said that the questions were not directly related to the case. He was for sure a pedo. I just don't see why people are digging this up now that he's dead. I mean besides the financial incentives, I don't see why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKPBZHpinLs
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by phuketrichard » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

clutchcargo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:59 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:25 pm
suggest to all those posting, watch the show first, than comment
What makes you think those posting here haven't watched it? Is it because you don't agree?

Anyway, I have indeed watched it and given my opinion.
They all believed MJ and they all accepted him as one of their "kids" and never ever thought anything was going on.
Seems MJ was very very good at playing the ,"I'm so alone and only want a friend"
That's what they want the public to believe NOW coz they fooked up THEN.

Think about it....how could you accept a 30 yr old grown man as one of your 'kids' when you are not much older? And isn't it creepy that a 30 yr old is looking for a friend in a 7 yr old? I very much doubt the parents would believe it. As I said, they want people to believe the story he was treated as part of their family and trusted for the purposes of this documentary to justify/cover up what they eventually found out happened .. Makes them look less guilty.. So I'm claiming bs they didn't suspect things.
as i said in my first post, "I am amazed at the parents that allowed their 7 & 10 year olds to spend the night with him in his bed as if it was totally ok."
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Khartoum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:44 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

...as i said in my first post, "I am amazed at the parents that allowed their 7 & 10 year olds to spend the night with him in his bed as if it was totally ok."...
I would suspect money to be involved.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by phuketrichard » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:54 pm

Khartoum wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:44 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

...as i said in my first post, "I am amazed at the parents that allowed their 7 & 10 year olds to spend the night with him in his bed as if it was totally ok."...
I would suspect money to be involved.
i am sure MJ is a sick person
BUT to justify it cause they wanted money, nope

There is NO amount of money i would have taken to allow anything like this to be done to my daughter when she was young, nor can i believe any parent would.

interesting;
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Queef » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:00 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:54 pm
Khartoum wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:44 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

...as i said in my first post, "I am amazed at the parents that allowed their 7 & 10 year olds to spend the night with him in his bed as if it was totally ok."...
I would suspect money to be involved.
i am sure MJ is a sick person
BUT to justify it cause they wanted money, nope

There is NO amount of money i would have taken to allow anything like this to be done to my daughter when she was young, nor can i believe any parent would.
You'd be surprised what people would do for $500k
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Khartoum » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:16 pm

Queef wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:00 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:54 pm
Khartoum wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:44 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

...as i said in my first post, "I am amazed at the parents that allowed their 7 & 10 year olds to spend the night with him in his bed as if it was totally ok."...
I would suspect money to be involved.
i am sure MJ is a sick person
BUT to justify it cause they wanted money, nope

There is NO amount of money i would have taken to allow anything like this to be done to my daughter when she was young, nor can i believe any parent would.
You'd be surprised what people would do for $500k
As horrible as it sounds, yes, there are parents who would 'rent' their children.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Kammekor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:22 pm

simon43 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:16 pm
Meanwhile the parents are getting intoxicated with:
having a world celebrity as a friend in their lives and everything that involves (publicity etc),
the free holidays living the high life, and
the potential stardom that MJ could bring to the kid's future and career.
My own opinion is that the parents knew full well what MJ was up to with their young sons - as you said, what 'normal' 30 year old man invites a 7 year old boy to sleep with him in bed. The parents were greedy for money and fame for their son, and ignored what was going on, certain of getting a payout in the future.
Those days MJ wasn't a 'normal 30 YO lam'. He was a kind of GOD.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Kammekor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 pm

whiteribbon wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:35 pm
10 years after he died is the time to bring these things up right? What's the point? And today some English trash paper published they found weird porn at his home, wow, like none of us watch weird porn. I always liked some of his music and now they're telling me I can't play or stream his music anymore? Same with R.Kelly, he's still alive I know but they're taking his music out of the music platforms. Also not allowed to watch Bill Cosby anymore. Next week they find something about Jerry Seinfeld and take him out. His show is the only thing that makes me fall asleep at night.
I didn't see the documentary yet, but I read an interview with one of the 'boys' involved he's got a son at that about his age at the time of abuse now, and the idea of the same happening to his some made him come out.

Sounded pretty convincing to me.
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