How to take over someone's phone number in Cambodia

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Re: How to take over someone's phone number in Cambodia

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The number whould be on the account. Plus on the sim holder, sometimes worth keeping.
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Does your scratched SIM card not have a finely printed serial number on it?

Side note - when first traveling to Cambodia I bought a SIM at the airport, when the telco booths were still inside the secure area. The seller demonstrated the credit had been credited, and then by the time I was out the gate the SIM had been cloned and the credit was gone.
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StroppyChops wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:59 am Does your scratched SIM card not have a finely printed serial number on it?

Side note - when first traveling to Cambodia I bought a SIM at the airport, when the telco booths were still inside the secure area. The seller demonstrated the credit had been credited, and then by the time I was out the gate the SIM had been cloned and the credit was gone.
I think I got scammed at the airport once too. Gave them the money and they said it was credited but it wasn't.

13-14 years ago tourists couldn't get SIM cards, you needed a local address, sometimes verified with a lease, etc. So they thing to do was ask any Cambodian, like a tuk tuk driver to get the SIM card for you. I did that, and I put $10 in credit on the phone too. We left the shop, and an hour later the credit was gone. He had just gone back to a shop with his ID and had the credit transferred to another number.
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I recently renewed my SIM card, as for some reason the old one wasn't connecting. No way they would have done it without a passport, but that was at head office.
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my guess would be that as you had the SIM with you and on the computer screen you have your copied ID saved they realized it was you.

My experience is once I had my phone stolen and bought a new one from SMART, as I had no SIM I brought the passport with me as I knew they would ask for it to put my number on the new phone. Prior to that I bought the phone and had the SIM card with me for this they didn't ask for the passport (even though I had it).

The upshot is I guess if you are in possession of the SIM they will do it without issue.
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angkorjohn wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:27 am my guess would be that as you had the SIM with you and on the computer screen you have your copied ID saved they realized it was you.

The SIM wouldn't connect and they didn't look for a serial number on it. I saw some data he pulled up on the screen there was no photo, I don't think SMART staff can pull up copies of the IDs of customers at the stroke of a keyboard.

I wasn't even wearing a long sleeved shirt to bolster my credibility.
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Cam Nivag wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:55 am
angkorjohn wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:27 am my guess would be that as you had the SIM with you and on the computer screen you have your copied ID saved they realized it was you.

The SIM wouldn't connect and they didn't look for a serial number on it. I saw some data he pulled up on the screen there was no photo, I don't think SMART staff can pull up copies of the IDs of customers at the stroke of a keyboard.

I wasn't even wearing a long sleeved shirt to bolster my credibility.
At least you were wearing a shirt which probably helped you out a bit. I guess someone coming to change a pay and go SIM isn't top of the cyber crimes list in Cambodia.
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Cam Nivag wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:55 am
angkorjohn wrote: Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:27 am my guess would be that as you had the SIM with you and on the computer screen you have your copied ID saved they realized it was you.

The SIM wouldn't connect and they didn't look for a serial number on it. I saw some data he pulled up on the screen there was no photo, I don't think SMART staff can pull up copies of the IDs of customers at the stroke of a keyboard.

I wasn't even wearing a long sleeved shirt to bolster my credibility.
They could tell that you're a badass baller and didn't want to deal with you going all agro on their asses. SOP.
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Re: How to take over someone's phone number in Cambodia

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Cam Nivag wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:16 pm My Smart SIM card stopped working yesterday. I went to the Smart Shop today and the guy said the SIM card was scratched/broken and I needed a new one. He asked for my phone number. I told him. I think he then looked up my account. He asked if I had my passport. I said no.

He shrugged that off. Presumably, the account shows my (Western) name, and that was good enough for him. He didn't actually ask me my name. He just programmed a SIM card for the number I told him and gave it to me.

Now, what would have happened if I gave him the phone number belonging to another white dude? I imagine he would have seen a Western name, and given me a SIM card with that guy's number. Would that automatically deactivate the guy's own SIM card, or would we both be walking around with the same number? And then what happens if someone calls, both phones ring and the first of us to answer gets to take the call?

The "scratched SIM card" could also be useful if you want to know who has a certain number. Let's say you're getting harassing phone calls from 0923336789, but you don't know who is calling. You walk in with a scratched up SIM card and say "My SIM card isn't working, my number is 0923336789." And he says do you have your passport? No. "Well, that phone number belongs to a lady in Kampong Cham named Chan Sreymom."
Probably NOTHING would happen. And the guy is right he did ask for ID. In Case you use other white dude sim and erase his number here is what is going to happen:
With in 24 hours the other White dude would go to the office WITH IDs. Then they will erase the erase sim card and give it back to him. Problem solved. And if they got you on the security camera you might be going to the police for some education/ re education. And you might have to pay 100 sim cards in fees :)
So no sweat.
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