How long is the "allowance for marry" valid?

willyhilly · Post by **willyhilly** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:34 pm

Good luck to the groom in this marriage thing. I think he should spend a bit more time in Cambodia before he actually takes the plunge. He sounds a bit overwhelmed by the process and vulnerable. The fixer who may be a lawyer is probably not a lawyer at all. Whoever brought him into the picture will be getting a commission of course.
Plenty of people have married without much drama, this chap is struggling though.
And whether the girl is good or bad is irrelevant, she is a Khmer woman with a Khmer family and all the baggage that goes with that.
My partner was a slightly bad girl who spent many years as a good girl and the last year as a very bad girl.
Now she is a good girl again but for 12 years the family have been consistently bad.
And it has taken me 12 years to unravel the family history and the events that helped my partner to go off the rails. It is pretty horrendous and of course involves child sexual abuse.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:27 pm

Kammekor wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:18 pm You're not really referring to a post from 2019....

My info is from 01-2019.

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About five weeks ago I was at the MoFA in PP and one of my 'countrymen' was there for the marriage process and both documents provided by MoFA I referred to (consent of parents + list of questions about how the couple met) were still obligatory. The first one being a pain in the @ss because you can't fill it in on the spot, it needs a signature + stamp from the sangkat the parents live in.
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ok, strange requirement, so assume if one or both parents are dead you need provide a death certificate?
and what happens if one parent has just fucked off ?

Brody · Post by **Brody** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:05 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:27 pm ok, strange requirement, so assume if one or both parents are dead you need provide a death certificate?
and what happens if one parent has just fucked off ?

I'm sure that's why it also needs a Sangkat stamp.

In the case of parental death and/or "just fucked off", the Sangkat officials will make annotations to that effect, maybe?

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:22 pm

Brody wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:05 pm
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:27 pm ok, strange requirement, so assume if one or both parents are dead you need provide a death certificate?
and what happens if one parent has just fucked off ?
I'm sure that's why it also needs a Sangkat stamp.

In the case of parental death and/or "just fucked off", the Sangkat officials will make annotations to that effect, maybe?

I guess so, No first hand experience. All I know is the MoFA will require the Khmer party to provide the document. However, If you go to the MoFA to collect the two documents before the official application you can come better prepared.

khmerre · Post by **khmerre** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:50 pm

If I remember correctly 2 khmer to marry need the parents consent too

newkidontheblock · Post by **newkidontheblock** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:39 am

OP - don’t be discouraged about all the good hearted but Cheap Charlies giving advice about how much you are overpaying for this and that. The Cambodian system is not transparent and easy to navigate for everyone. I didn’t want the hassle.

Some US documents are only given out as certified copies, never as originals and thus never accepted. Other documents were over the time limit. A fixer smooths all these over. The fixer I used was the main guy at the MOFA. He guided us through the process, providing a list of things needed, smoothing over problematic documents, and stomping out one wayward public servant at the sex slavery department. Hint. Don’t show up in business attire at the ministry.

The bunker is built underneath their family home as well. But the family house needed to be raised to accommodate it - the wooden stilts replaced by steel beams. The bunker was built with brick and mortar under a concrete foundation. New stairs had to be built to the now second floor original house. Total construction cost was well over $5000. Worth every penny. Part of it was used for the engagement ceremony, part for the wedding, then later as a changing and make up area for all the ladies. Plus a walled off, aircon and fan cooled room for hiding out and cooling down.

The wedding is for the face of her and family, so your future wife will make you happy forever. Spend whatever is needed. You don’t want the villagers to know your lady as the one who married the Cheap Charlie foreigner.

And that’s the reason why I’m working abroad.

And good luck OP - your lady sounds like a gem.

kerberus · Post by **kerberus** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:10 pm

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:39 am OP - don’t be discouraged about all the good hearted but Cheap Charlies giving advice about how much you are overpaying for this and that. The Cambodian system is not transparent and easy to navigate for everyone. I didn’t want the hassle.

Some US documents are only given out as certified copies, never as originals and thus never accepted. Other documents were over the time limit. A fixer smooths all these over. The fixer I used was the main guy at the MOFA. He guided us through the process, providing a list of things needed, smoothing over problematic documents, and stomping out one wayward public servant at the sex slavery department. Hint. Don’t show up in business attire at the ministry.

The bunker is built underneath their family home as well. But the family house needed to be raised to accommodate it - the wooden stilts replaced by steel beams. The bunker was built with brick and mortar under a concrete foundation. New stairs had to be built to the now second floor original house. Total construction cost was well over $5000. Worth every penny. Part of it was used for the engagement ceremony, part for the wedding, then later as a changing and make up area for all the ladies. Plus a walled off, aircon and fan cooled room for hiding out and cooling down.

The wedding is for the face of her and family, so your future wife will make you happy forever. Spend whatever is needed. You don’t want the villagers to know your lady as the one who married the Cheap Charlie foreigner.

And that’s the reason why I’m working abroad.

And good luck OP - your lady sounds like a gem.

Thank you for your reply...and how i get in contact with the main guy at the MOFA? Btw how much you spent for the process with the paperwork?

newkidontheblock · Post by **newkidontheblock** » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:16 am

kerberus wrote:Thank you for your reply...and how i get in contact with the main guy at the MOFA? Btw how much you spent for the process with the paperwork?

Your better half calls the MOFA and asks him to help her. The price for assistance will be mentioned. Pay him when you both go to the MOFA. Have your better half keep in contact with him for the entire process.

I may have mentioned what I paid in a previous posting. But it’s Cambodia, price is always variable, depending on your Khmer negotiating skills.

Best of luck!

kerberus · Post by **kerberus** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:53 pm

To return a answer on my first asked question "How long is the "allowance for marry" valid?" i now can say: the validity is 3 months like the most documents.

Beside of this i want you to ask somehting else:
What visa type i should now really apply for when i go to cambodia for marry?
Tourist Visa - only 30 days
I read i need an EG Ordinary Visa aka Business Visa...but i also read if i get into Camobdia with that Business Visa, they want from me a work permit before they let me marry. So is there also an EG Ordinary Visa FOR marry itself? I dont get it.

What Visa type you used when you married in the past and you had any problems?

j57 · Post by **j57** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:40 pm

the ground floor is her house...
you could get title to a non ground floor..
i think you should get your own place together and spend a year living just the 2 of you....
since..you said you can work anywhere...
if you plan on staying in her parents' house forever in their neighborhood...the cheap charlie issue might bother you ...
i think you are being coerced...
they can toss you out on your ass anytime they want.
you really think she is going to work 6 days a week after you get married?
after you have a kid?
get a nice apartment...take your time..
become 1.... learn about her family...
you are taking big risks ....

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