Duncan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:05 am The Chinese will be back before you can say ''I will have chop suey '' in your favourite girlie bar.

I agree. Millions and millions of chinese have moved from the safe countryside to some of the most polluted cities in the world just because of econimic reasons. They dont care a lot about health when they can make a quick buck. They will be the sharks buying for cheap all the places that went bankrupt in the coming months and turn them into a chinese whatever which will further attract chinese tourists.

The chinese may get ram fucked by another round of this shit next fall.
Their economy is in worse shape than it has been in 40 years.
The World may wake up and realize the supply chain needs to be altered.
There will be a lot of countries courting chinese tourism...provided the chinese propaganda spew suckers them again.
The challenge with Cambodia is people come here once and then cross it off their list.
They don't get the repeat customers Thailand, Vietnam and other more exotic locales attract.
There are big money projects happening along the coast and they will continue.
Siem Reap has so many hotels, guesthouses, hostels, Villas, and more being built.
The long term infrastructure projects ...new airports, airport expansion will give rise to more hotels as new roads are opened.
Unless, the Wuhan chinese virus mutates and mutates and mutates...
China just had a swine flu disaster that crippled their pork industry...People have forgotten about that.
I saw temperature checks at chinese airports last November December and January...
They knew they had problems for months....greedy as fuck..

seeing as we are only at the very start of the pandemic ,
how long s a piece of string?

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:01 am More than a few months, that's for sure. It'll be a few months Minimum before people start flying regularly again, and vacation to Cambodia won't be first on their list.

it is for me.. .beg of August. Singapore Airlines... They been updating their alerts.. . so far so good. But thats also if I can get out of the U.S

truffledog wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:03 am

Duncan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:05 am The Chinese will be back before you can say ''I will have chop suey '' in your favourite girlie bar.

I agree. Millions and millions of chinese have moved from the safe countryside to some of the most polluted cities in the world just because of econimic reasons. They dont care a lot about health when they can make a quick buck. They will be the sharks buying for cheap all the places that went bankrupt in the coming months and turn them into a chinese whatever which will further attract chinese tourists.

You mean they have done exactlry the same as the people of more developed econmies like europe and the US did 2 generations ago? Its just human nature.
It will take airlines years to recover form this. many will go bust, airfares will increase as competition dries up. Tourists coming to Cambodia come from industrially developed countries whose economies will be wrecked so they will not have the money to travel, wether they are from China or korea or "the west". the economic fallout could last a generation, companies folding, workers losing their houses. And what nakes me sick is the politicians everywhere are trying to manipulate it to their advantage. trade wars, brexit and even real wars need to be stopped while the world rebuilds, butthey won't be and that will prolong the agony

it was just reported on Aljazerra that congress had a private meeting concerning the virus in the states a few months ago, (when Trump was telling everyone its all good) and 2 Republican senators used that privileged information to sell stocks, earning them millions of $$
fuck

If it takes 12-18 mths for a vaccine to be developed as reported...would countries loosen containment measures before then and risk secondary outbreaks?

My guess is no. Easy for governments to slap on a ban...they will think twice/thrice before lifting imo

Well, let me throw this on the table.

An Israeli Nobel Laureate has crunched the numbers and says China is well on the way to zero new infections by the end of March and Korea is past the median point and is seeing slowdown in the infection rate.

"The Diamond Princess cruise ship represented the worst-case scenario in terms of disease spread, as the close confines of the ship offered optimal conditions for the virus to be passed among those aboard. The population density aboard the ship was the equivalent of trying to cram the whole Israeli population into an area 30 kilometers square. In addition, the ship had a central air conditioning and heating system, and communal dining rooms.

“Those are extremely comfortable conditions for the virus and still, only 20% were infected. It is a lot, but pretty similar to the infection rate of the common flu,” Levitt said. Based on those figures, his conclusion was that most people are simply naturally immune."

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Is ... ing-621145

So we just have to have Europe and North America to catch up.

ExPenhMan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:41 pm Well, let me throw this on the table.

An Israeli Nobel Laureate has crunched the numbers and says China is well on the way to zero new infections by the end of March and Korea is past the median point and is seeing slowdown in the infection rate.

"The Diamond Princess cruise ship represented the worst-case scenario in terms of disease spread, as the close confines of the ship offered optimal conditions for the virus to be passed among those aboard. The population density aboard the ship was the equivalent of trying to cram the whole Israeli population into an area 30 kilometers square. In addition, the ship had a central air conditioning and heating system, and communal dining rooms.

“Those are extremely comfortable conditions for the virus and still, only 20% were infected. It is a lot, but pretty similar to the infection rate of the common flu,” Levitt said. Based on those figures, his conclusion was that most people are simply naturally immune."

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Is ... ing-621145

So we just have to have Europe and North America to catch up.

Interesting article. TBH that's the first time I've heard of people having a 'natural immunity' to this. Made me think, are there people in the world that never get the flu?

I thought China's and Sth Korea's success was due to effective containment...and in China's case, pretty draconian measures..

I do hope this guy is right. Is he on his own about this?

He made some early forecasts to help out some Chinese friends. This is from a week ago in another publication. Then went on to crunch even more numbers.

The calming messages Levitt sent to his friends in China were translated into Chinese and passed from person to person, making him a popular subject for interviews in the Asian nation. His forecasts turned out to be correct: the number of new cases reported each day started to fall as of February 7. A week later, the mortality rate started falling as well.

https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/arti ... 32,00.html

I can't find any other experts challenging or heralding his stats.