How a film influenced Nixon's decision to invade Cambodia

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Re: How a film influenced Nixon's decision to invade Cambodia

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Duncan wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:09 am http://rabble.ca/sites/rabble/files/nod ... mb6573.JPG


Some of those bomb sites look a bit far from the Vietnam / Cambodian border .
To be fair hitting anything precisely with a B52 probably wasn't on the 'to do' list - no cruise missiles back in those days; and even in Iraq I think there was plenty of 'collateral damage'.

Also would be interested to see that map year on year as by '73 the Khmer Rouge uprising was in full swing & I think the Americans decided that all communists were fair game, not just Vietnamese. But you could be right, if those locations are showing in years earlier than 1973, then I think you can't even cite a bit of a dodgy B52 bombsight given how far from the border they extend.
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Good link

Document 3: Kissinger and General Alexander M. Haig, Jr., 9 December 1970, 8:50 p.m.
Source: Nixon Presidential Materials Project, Henry A. Kissinger Telephone Conversations Transcripts, Home File, Box 29, File 2, 106-10

A few minutes later after receiving Nixon's call on Cambodia, Kissinger telephoned his military assistant Alexander Haig about the orders from "our friend." After he described Nixon's instructions for a "massive bombing campaign" involving "anything that flys [or] anything that moves", the notetaker apparently heard Haig "laughing." Both Haig and Kissinger knew that what Nixon had ordered was logistically and politically impossible so they translated it into a plan for massive bombing in a particular district (not identifiable because the text is incomplete). These two phone calls illustrate an important feature of the Nixon-Kissinger relationship: while Nixon would, from time to time, make preposterous suggestions (no doubt depending on his mood), Kissinger would later decide whether there was a rational kernel in what Nixon had said and whether or how to follow up on it.
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Re: How a film influenced Nixon's decision to invade Cambodia

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Spigzy wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:10 pm
Duncan wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:09 am http://rabble.ca/sites/rabble/files/nod ... mb6573.JPG


Some of those bomb sites look a bit far from the Vietnam / Cambodian border .
To be fair hitting anything precisely with a B52 probably wasn't on the 'to do' list - no cruise missiles back in those days; and even in Iraq I think there was plenty of 'collateral damage'.

Also would be interested to see that map year on year as by '73 the Khmer Rouge uprising was in full swing & I think the Americans decided that all communists were fair game, not just Vietnamese. But you could be right, if those locations are showing in years earlier than 1973, then I think you can't even cite a bit of a dodgy B52 bombsight given how far from the border they extend.

I am sure I have seen that bombing map of Cambodia in a year by year form , but I cannot find it now.
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Found one ... seems to commence in Cambodia in 1971 ... cheeky!

[edit: source article: https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/produc ... story-map/]

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Nixon got the US out of Viet Nam and was subsequently knee-capped by the deep state.
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fax wrote: Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:38 pm Good link

These documents can be downloaded in a pdf, where you can read what was said word for word at the time. :shock:
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sigmoid wrote:Nixon got the US out of Viet Nam and was subsequently knee-capped by the deep state.
Our favorite bogey, the "deep state"

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