Username Taken wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:03 pm

Borum-Ex frm TOForum wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:49 am

angkorjohn wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 11:33 am I did write this earlier but seems it didn't post. I agree with the OP and have been thinking the same myself. There seems to be an increasing and regular amount of murders/rapes/extreme violence especially against/between younger people and children and I'm just going off what CEO pick up and translate. It seems to be running at 3 murders a week. I dont know how that compares with other similar sized countries

Fuck, i did it again, big fingers, small screen. Meant to rate you positevely!

OK, I've fixed it again for you.

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A few random thoughts on the specific KOW violence.

The number of suicides is also quite remarkable. The same violence, but turned against self. Suicidal behavior is also common - look at the roads.

Rape is more about violence than sex. It is often inflicted by people who feel powerless. The rape-murders in Cambodia are often acts of instant gratification, much like the theft-murders. There seems to be little thought for consequences.

Studies show that PTSD in society can be passed down through generations. It's probable that the fact that there was no resolution of the KR violence, no punishment, and therefore no possible pardon, has maintained the collective trauma.

Added to this, society is being kept in a sort of powerless vacuum where the population are being treated like children. There is also a total disconnection between the way people are supposed to think and act, and the reality. In Khmer society, people are expected to revere certain persons and institutions that behave badly with impunity. Society's role models reinforce the message that might is right, and that everyone is out for themselves and should grab what they can get.

This is not an exhaustive list, just some things that IMO may define or contribute to Cambodian-specific violence.

Anchor Moy's observations above are good, I think.

In ten years here, I think there is above average sexual violence per capita for the region, Myanmar not included, and unsure about Indonesia and the Philippines. I also don't think that the violence has let up in the time that I've been here. It ebbs and flows, but in 10 years I'd say it's remained overall static at a high level. I'm aware it was bad before I came here too. It's one area where Cambodia simply has been unable to make any progress whatsoever. Sex offenders are always difficult to deal with, and the institutions here simply can not cope with the scale of the trend.

I have always been distressed by how common rape jokes are amongst Khmer men, there is a certain subculture around it, if that's the right word.

There's also age-old traditional gender roles to think about.

hanno wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 10:21 am

siliconlife wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 10:02 amShirking off the sexual violence here, and saying oh it's just like other countries seems a bit... I dunno... Not great.

Not my intention at all; nowhere did I deny that horrific crimes exist in this country. I am just questioning the statement that the KR are somewhat responsible. South Africa has by far the highest number of rapes anywhere in the world; and this even though most rapes go unreported (there are claims that there are as many as 500,000 rapes a year).

Surely South Africa's history has something to do with it's present ailments? The present also, of course, is an influence, I agree.

PTSD and trauma is passed down through the generations in the dna apparently so bbc world service told me last week.

Combined with meth taking, such soul devouring gack. Whats that Khmer story about women being stained? Men are gold, women are cloth I think.

Firefly wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 1:08 am PTSD and trauma is passed down through the generations in the dna apparently so bbc world service told me last week.

Combined with meth taking, such soul devouring gack. Whats that Khmer story about women being stained? Men are gold, women are cloth I think.

There's another one too: "Women can not dive deep or go far."

Rape is more about violence than sex. It is often inflicted by people who feel powerless. The rape-murders in Cambodia are often acts of instant gratification, much like the theft-murders. There seems to be little thought for consequences.

You seem to contradict yourself, is rape instant gratification of violence, or sex?
We keep hearing how rape is about power not sex, but maybe it's about the power to have sex, and resentment toward women who won't give the rapists what they want voluntarily.

finbar wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 8:25 pmYou seem to contradict yourself, is rape instant gratification of violence, or sex?

Both.

There's an awful lot of talk about meth on CEO. Why is that? Is it really common in Cambodia or something?