Help choosing a University subject.

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General Mackevili wrote:You're comparing wages in Cambodia with wages in the west. That's comparing apples and durians.
Not always.

In fact, mostly not.

In my impression, such comparison actually makes sense.

If we say that a job is just a deal to produce services, we can see that the internet has made quite a few of these jobs tradable. These jobs are now pretty much subject to the Law of one price.

In my job, this is certainly the case. I find my clients on the internet and deliver my supplies on the internet too. A Cambodian who does my job, would make pretty much the same amount of money. The point, however, is that I do not know of any Cambodian who does my job. But then again, nothing would specifically stop him from moving into it.

There are still many jobs that are being thought of as not tradable, but that is for non-fundamental reasons. Any job in which the goal is to process information -- most jobs -- is fundamentally tradable. Even though it is the factory jobs that first got outsourced overseas, it is in fact even much easier to outsource office jobs.

If a Cambodian worker is as good as a worker overseas at producing the same output, they will both gradually end up at the same levels of salary (law of one price) or else the job overseas will simply disappear. In that respect, I do not consider the wages to be fundamentally lower in Cambodia. I just consider the local skills to be very poor.
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phuketrichard wrote:i made NO ANALOGY abut US to Cambodia as what gm quoted was taken out of context!!

I was first in Cambodia in 1988 an made more than a few trips, plus know lots of people that went into Cambodia before UNTAC>
NEVER EVER claimed to know everything about your country, Your the one that always seems to stick ur $ 02 in every thread. NOT ME

My gf was married at 16 yes she did not complete hs cause she dd not have lucky life like yours, she divorced at 17

R u saying people without education cant teach anyone about their country ? MY GOD!
Dont assume anything in life cause u only make an ass out of u an me

Currently she teaches at a pre school here in Phuket

As to experiencing it in real life, supported by mom an dad, get back to me in 20 years. LOL

Congratulations on being born there, best of luck to you
Is it really hard just to accept or embrace what you said or did? Since you were trying to tell me that you didn't make an analogy about the salary in Cambodia and The United State, It gave me a feeling that you are also a fan of face saving trend too. It is really rare to see American trying to do something to save his face. Just accept it you might have a good time for the rest of the day. :)

It is okay to make assumption, everyone can make an assumption and they are entitled to do so. However, it would be great to make a wise assumption. Don't ever make the assumption that far beyond the truth. You actually came here in the year i speculated, but then you said you might came here before i knew how to walk. Again what a poor presumption :facepalm: :facepalm: .

I wasn't born in a really rich family, so i don't think i was lucky, however i was not unhappy. I love my parents and happy with what they could afford to give me. In a country like Cambodia, you have to work hard in order to provide things to your kids. My parents were working so hard to send me and all my siblings to school.
BTW did you know that why did your girlfriend drop out school and why did she get married in the young age? I personally think that because her parents are lazy. They didn't try their best to work hard to send their children to school.

i think she might be able to teach you some small things, maybe culturally and traditionally related things. I wonder if she every taught to you about history of Cambodia or how the country is being run. To me knowledge not many Cambodians really know about the history of their country.

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juansweetpotato wrote:Don't call Cambodia that Samouth. Call it a developing country or perhaps an LDC. Yep, GDP per person is around 800-1000 if you believe the UN data in the countryside, and 3000 in PP.
Cambodia is the poorest country in the region and now our GDP is below every country in Asia. How would you define third world country and developing country differently? :)
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Samouth wrote:
juansweetpotato wrote:Don't call Cambodia that Samouth. Call it a developing country or perhaps an LDC. Yep, GDP per person is around 800-1000 if you believe the UN data in the countryside, and 3000 in PP.
Cambodia is the poorest country in the region and now our GDP is below every country in Asia. How would you define third world country and developing country differently? :)
"Third world" suggests that somewhere is inherently second rate and that there is very little hope it will ever be otherwise. "Developing country" suggests that the journey of improvement has already begun and that it may be entirely possible that one day, that country will be "developed" (whatever that actually means is probably up for debate).
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Samouth wrote:
Ur really starting to irritate me
Well, this is a forum right ?
Indeed, Samouth.

Ignore people who think the whole world revolves around their experience simply because they want to appear as old boy types.

How long someone has been here is largely irrelevant to most discussions, including this one.

It presupposes that people learn facts during said time, which, as demonstrated in this thread, is a falsehood.
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TheGrinchSR wrote:
Samouth wrote:
juansweetpotato wrote:Don't call Cambodia that Samouth. Call it a developing country or perhaps an LDC. Yep, GDP per person is around 800-1000 if you believe the UN data in the countryside, and 3000 in PP.
Cambodia is the poorest country in the region and now our GDP is below every country in Asia. How would you define third world country and developing country differently? :)
"Third world" suggests that somewhere is inherently second rate and that there is very little hope it will ever be otherwise. "Developing country" suggests that the journey of improvement has already begun and that it may be entirely possible that one day, that country will be "developed" (whatever that actually means is probably up for debate).
I always thought that developing country and third world country are the same. As I heard people called Cambodia either developing country or third world all the time.
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vladimir wrote:
Samouth wrote:
Ur really starting to irritate me
Well, this is a forum right ?
Indeed, Samouth.

Ignore people who think the whole world revolves around their experience simply because they want to appear as old boy types.

How long someone has been here is largely irrelevant to most discussions, including this one.

It presupposes that people learn facts during said time, which, as demonstrated in this thread, is a falsehood.
I actually get used to this kinda situation as I experienced this a lots with older Cambodian. They are big fan of saving face culture. Even though they don't know something, but they say something in order to save their faces in front of you instead of saying they don't know. One more thing I hate is that because they are old, so they always expect younger one to know less than them.
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I actually get used to this kinda situation as I experienced this a lots with older Cambodian. They are big fan of saving face culture. Even though they don't know something, but they say something in order to save their faces in front of you instead of saying they don't know. One more thing I hate is that because they are old, so they always expect younger one to know less than them.

I agree totally with this conclusion. Except for the fact that it applies equally to Cambodians in general regardless of age. Conversations in Cambodia have little to do with fact finding and more to do with cultural bonding. it seems always to be preferable to utter polite lies than to speak a truth which might be abrasive. For the most part I've given up on having meaningful discussions with them; just walk away no better informed than i was prior to the conversation. So much of their knowledge which is deemed irrefutable, appears to me to be cultural hand-me-downs and little to do with personal observation derived from experience.
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juansweetpotato wrote:Yep, GDP per person is around 800-1000 if you believe the UN data in the countryside, and 3000 in PP.
Samouth wrote:Cambodia is the poorest country in the region and now our GDP is below every country in Asia.
One problem is that -- except for garment -- foreign factories prefer to set up their production facilities in China. It would be hard to convince them to consider Cambodia, given the popularity of a China solution. At the same time, some local entrepreneurship may exist in Cambodia, but it is absolutely unable to absorb enough workers to make a difference. Furthermore, local initiatives are not really exporting that much, or resolutely producing for the global marketplace. Fortunately, other ASEAN countries such as Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore, but also Korea, are able to absorb workers from Cambodia. These workers would otherwise be unemployed. There is no simple solution to the problem. The sufficient command of English and the practical skills and experience that would allow for local entrepreneurship to flourish on the global market and that would attract production facilities from overseas, are simply not there yet.
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