I have some serious questions about this place
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
A few more books to ensure you keep your nose to the grindstone.
Chandler:- Facing the Cambodian Past
The Tragedy of Cambodian History
Brother Number One
Cambodia Year Zero
Thion:- Watching Cambodia
Kiernan:- The Pol Pot Regime
How Pol Pot Came To Power
Kiernan&
Boua:- Peasants and Politicians In Kampuchea 1942-1981
Short:- Pol Pot (The History of a Nightmare)
Kamm:- Cambodia
Vickery:- Cambodia A Political Survey
Cambodia 1975-82
Gottesman:- Cambodia After The Khemer Rouge
Etcheson:- The Rise and Demise of Democratic Kampuchea
Jackson ed:- 1975-1978
Happy Reading.
Chandler:- Facing the Cambodian Past
The Tragedy of Cambodian History
Brother Number One
Cambodia Year Zero
Thion:- Watching Cambodia
Kiernan:- The Pol Pot Regime
How Pol Pot Came To Power
Kiernan&
Boua:- Peasants and Politicians In Kampuchea 1942-1981
Short:- Pol Pot (The History of a Nightmare)
Kamm:- Cambodia
Vickery:- Cambodia A Political Survey
Cambodia 1975-82
Gottesman:- Cambodia After The Khemer Rouge
Etcheson:- The Rise and Demise of Democratic Kampuchea
Jackson ed:- 1975-1978
Happy Reading.
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
Hahahaha - thanks Takeoman,
I have actually made a list of all these books and things.... I expect it might be a few months before my house sells/settlement etc. so have something to read in the meantime....
Well, I certainly don't think I will have to read (or ask any more questions) on this matter!! I think I might start up my own library when I arrive though to keep me out of trouble - at least for a while.
Kind Regards
Cheers Fellas!!
Gav
I have actually made a list of all these books and things.... I expect it might be a few months before my house sells/settlement etc. so have something to read in the meantime....
Well, I certainly don't think I will have to read (or ask any more questions) on this matter!! I think I might start up my own library when I arrive though to keep me out of trouble - at least for a while.
Kind Regards
Cheers Fellas!!
Gav
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
You'll find a few more in my sig below. Definitely not a complete list yet, but getting there slowly.gavinbrisbane wrote:Hahahaha - thanks Takeoman,
I have actually made a list of all these books and things....
Most of these books you can buy from sellers along the riverside for around 5 usd.
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
I will make a note of where to get these books as well,
The last thing I want to do is turn up at PP International Airport with a suitcase full of books and no clothes! That might be a regarded as a bit questionable...
The last thing I want to do is turn up at PP International Airport with a suitcase full of books and no clothes! That might be a regarded as a bit questionable...
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
Hi Gav, and welcome to the forum.
Here is a link you might find informative.
It's a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) where someone who says they survived the Khmer Rouge asks any questions people have.
It's from last year, but pretty interesting:
Edit: It's an "I Am A" not an "Ask Me Anything."
Here is a link you might find informative.
It's a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) where someone who says they survived the Khmer Rouge asks any questions people have.
It's from last year, but pretty interesting:
Edit: It's an "I Am A" not an "Ask Me Anything."
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
ahhh thanks, another reason to hate maggie TKuroneko wrote:Here's a start: How Thatcher gave Pol Pot a handJamie_Lambo wrote:how much involvement did the british military actually have during the end of the vietnam war/KR era?juansweetpotato wrote:John Bingham wrote:So anybody who was above the age of 14 in 1979 has blood on their hands? Is that supposed to be a joke or something?phuketrichard wrote:
NO ONE over 50 is Innocent
The American and British governments at the time certainly do. I don't think we will ever hear them apologize for it though.
genuine question as i thought it was mainly the US/CIA, i might have to do some more googling
Until 1989, the British role in Cambodia remained secret. The first reports appeared in the Sunday Telegraph, written by Simon O'Dwyer-Russell, a diplomatic and defence correspondent with close professional and family contacts with the SAS. He revealed that the SAS was training the Pol Pot-led force. Soon afterwards, Jane's Defence Weekly reported that the British training for the "non-communist" members of the "coalition" had been going on "at secret bases in Thailand for more than four years". The instructors were from the SAS, "all serving military personnel, all veterans of the Falklands conflict, led by a captain".
The Cambodian training became an exclusively British operation after the "Irangate" arms-for-hostages scandal broke in Washington in 1986. "If Congress had found out that Americans were mixed up in clandestine training in Indo-China, let alone with Pol Pot," a Ministry of Defence source told O'Dwyer-Russell, "the balloon would have gone right up. It was one of those classic Thatcher-Reagan arrangements." Moreover, Margaret Thatcher had let slip, to the consternation of the Foreign Office, that "the more reasonable ones in the Khmer Rouge will have to play some part in a future government". In 1991, I interviewed a member of "R" (reserve) Squadron of the SAS, who had served on the border. "We trained the KR in a lot of technical stuff - a lot about mines," he said. "We used mines that came originally from Royal Ordnance in Britain, which we got by way of Egypt with marking changed . . . We even gave them psychological training. At first, they wanted to go into the villages and just chop people up. We told them how to go easy . . ." http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/po ... l-pot-hand
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
It's no huge secret that the British army trained ANS and KPLNF forces in the 1980s. However I'd take that New Statesman story with a pinch of salt. It ended up in a court case that Pilger lost:
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/m ... ss-charter
A court heard that Geidt and another former army officer, Anthony de Normann, had wrongly been accused by Pilger's documentary of being SAS officers who trained the Khmer Rouge to lay mines.
Pilger, who had claimed he never intended to make any such allegation, gave an unqualified retraction and apology in court in settlement of the case which was reported to have cost Central TV £350,000 in libel damages and costs.
It sounds more like they were spies than conducting any military training.The 1991 libel case came after Geidt and De Normann travelled to Cambodia in 1989 and joined an international party observing the withdrawal of Vietnamese troops from the conflict-ridden state. In a debate on Cambodia in the Commons in 1990, the Labour MP Ann Clwyd said in the House of Commons that she was on the same mission and met the men but was not convinced by their explanation that they were on holiday.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/m ... ss-charter
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
Spies & in some kind of peace keeping capacity perhaps?? Interesting.....
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
Thanks John Jamie & General, (or should I just say everyone!)
26 books, a movie, the information link and a few other bits and pieces as well as finding out where I can locate some foreign bookshops in PP from the other forum!
Awesome.....
Cheers
Gav
26 books, a movie, the information link and a few other bits and pieces as well as finding out where I can locate some foreign bookshops in PP from the other forum!
Awesome.....
Cheers
Gav
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Re: I have some serious questions about this place
You forgot 'Hu n Se n: Strongman of Cambodia'.takeoman wrote:A few more books to ensure you keep your nose to the grindstone.
Chandler:- Facing the Cambodian Past
The Tragedy of Cambodian History
Brother Number One
Cambodia Year Zero
Thion:- Watching Cambodia
Kiernan:- The Pol Pot Regime
How Pol Pot Came To Power
Kiernan&
Boua:- Peasants and Politicians In Kampuchea 1942-1981
Short:- Pol Pot (The History of a Nightmare)
Kamm:- Cambodia
Vickery:- Cambodia A Political Survey
Cambodia 1975-82
Gottesman:- Cambodia After The Khemer Rouge
Etcheson:- The Rise and Demise of Democratic Kampuchea
Jackson ed:- 1975-1978
Happy Reading.
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