I have some serious questions about this place
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Thanks for the recommendation on some literature PR - that will keep me busy for a while!
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Crossing Three Rivers is the best book by a Khmer. An educated man who survived with his wife, the KR midwives killed their twins at birth. He became a politician but was eventually forced to leave in the nineties by HS. Although he had done a degree in the US as a young man he was very spiritual and believed in ghosts who he often saw.
His story would make a far better movie than the one Jolie is filming, his book is unique. Richards recomendations I agree with as well, I always liked When the War was Over by Elizabeth Becker and Jon Swains book about the Mekong. And the movie Une nuit apres la guerre by that Khmer guy whose name I cant remember.
Very few Khmers will talk about the past, either because of the pain or because they were complicit. The only ones that wern't complicit seem to be those in front of the Tribunal.
His story would make a far better movie than the one Jolie is filming, his book is unique. Richards recomendations I agree with as well, I always liked When the War was Over by Elizabeth Becker and Jon Swains book about the Mekong. And the movie Une nuit apres la guerre by that Khmer guy whose name I cant remember.
Very few Khmers will talk about the past, either because of the pain or because they were complicit. The only ones that wern't complicit seem to be those in front of the Tribunal.
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Who wrote it? Was it Nhek Bun Chhay?willyhilly wrote:Crossing Three Rivers is the best book by a Khmer.
Not my experience at all, the topic has often come up and other times I overhear people discussing the Pol Pot regime.Very few Khmers will talk about the past, either because of the pain or because they were complicit.
So you don't believe Nuon Chea or Khieu Samphan were complicit?The only ones that wern't complicit seem to be those in front of the Tribunal.
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Best book on the " Mekong" is by Milton Osborne
updated in 2006
Cant find any reference on duck duck go to the book "Crossing Three Rivers"
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updated in 2006
Cant find any reference on duck duck go to the book "Crossing Three Rivers"
NO ONE over 50 is Innocent
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On the road to Phnom Tamoa zoo you will find alot of old khmer women begging.phuketrichard wrote:Best book on the " Mekong" is by Milton Osborne
updated in 2006
Cant find any reference on duck duck go to the book "Crossing Three Rivers"
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They look near 80-90 years old.
Majority of khmer rouge footsoldiers were in there teens.
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So anybody who was above the age of 14 in 1979 has blood on their hands? Is that supposed to be a joke or something?phuketrichard wrote:
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John Bingham wrote:So anybody who was above the age of 14 in 1979 has blood on their hands? Is that supposed to be a joke or something?phuketrichard wrote:
NO ONE over 50 is Innocent
The American and British governments at the time certainly do. I don't think we will ever hear them apologize for it though.
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That's all very well but it's totally off topic.
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how much involvement did the british military actually have during the end of the vietnam war/KR era?juansweetpotato wrote:John Bingham wrote:So anybody who was above the age of 14 in 1979 has blood on their hands? Is that supposed to be a joke or something?phuketrichard wrote:
NO ONE over 50 is Innocent
The American and British governments at the time certainly do. I don't think we will ever hear them apologize for it though.
genuine question as i thought it was mainly the US/CIA, i might have to do some more googling
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Here's a start: How Thatcher gave Pol Pot a handJamie_Lambo wrote:how much involvement did the british military actually have during the end of the vietnam war/KR era?juansweetpotato wrote:John Bingham wrote:So anybody who was above the age of 14 in 1979 has blood on their hands? Is that supposed to be a joke or something?phuketrichard wrote:
NO ONE over 50 is Innocent
The American and British governments at the time certainly do. I don't think we will ever hear them apologize for it though.
genuine question as i thought it was mainly the US/CIA, i might have to do some more googling
Until 1989, the British role in Cambodia remained secret. The first reports appeared in the Sunday Telegraph, written by Simon O'Dwyer-Russell, a diplomatic and defence correspondent with close professional and family contacts with the SAS. He revealed that the SAS was training the Pol Pot-led force. Soon afterwards, Jane's Defence Weekly reported that the British training for the "non-communist" members of the "coalition" had been going on "at secret bases in Thailand for more than four years". The instructors were from the SAS, "all serving military personnel, all veterans of the Falklands conflict, led by a captain".
The Cambodian training became an exclusively British operation after the "Irangate" arms-for-hostages scandal broke in Washington in 1986. "If Congress had found out that Americans were mixed up in clandestine training in Indo-China, let alone with Pol Pot," a Ministry of Defence source told O'Dwyer-Russell, "the balloon would have gone right up. It was one of those classic Thatcher-Reagan arrangements." Moreover, Margaret Thatcher had let slip, to the consternation of the Foreign Office, that "the more reasonable ones in the Khmer Rouge will have to play some part in a future government". In 1991, I interviewed a member of "R" (reserve) Squadron of the SAS, who had served on the border. "We trained the KR in a lot of technical stuff - a lot about mines," he said. "We used mines that came originally from Royal Ordnance in Britain, which we got by way of Egypt with marking changed . . . We even gave them psychological training. At first, they wanted to go into the villages and just chop people up. We told them how to go easy . . ." http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/po ... l-pot-hand
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