Giving up your passport

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phuketrichard wrote:
Now Duncan :please:
next time you choose to post bullshit posts at least give us the source cause this one is wrong on so many levels
Just a few:
What are you talking about, Richard?

He posted a very interesting article that's UP FOR DEBATE.

I don't think he wrote the article himself.
:facepalm:

The article may be bullshit, but what does this have to do with Duncan? ?
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General Mackevili wrote:The article may be bullshit, but what does this have to do with Duncan? ?
This.
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Duncan wrote:[quote=

Now Duncan :please:
next time you choose to post bullshit posts at least give us the source cause this one is wrong on so many levels


Last year, (2013) a record 2,999 Americans gave up their citizenship or terminated their long-term U.S. residency, according to new data from the U.S. Treasury Department. That was more than three times the number in 2012, and greater than the combined totals for 2011 and 2012.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101406922[/quote



Yea, I spent the last 30 seconds making it all up. Everyone knows Americans living in the land of the free would NEVER EVER give up their citizenship and their rights under the first amendment of their constitution.
The 1st amendment guarantees the right to free speech.... I fail to see how you are using this to help your argument?
I'll give ya 500 Riel for it...
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LTO wrote:
phuketrichard wrote:

I know many many Americans that live overseas and NOT ONE has ever said they would even remotely consider giving up their us citizenship...
My observation as well.
Same here.
Duncan wrote:
The survey by financial consultancy deVere Group asked expatriate Americans around the world "Would you consider voluntarily relinquishing your U.S. citizenship due to the impact of FATCA?"

Seventy-three percent of respondents answered that they had "actively considered it", "are thinking about it" or "have explored the options of it." On the other hand, 16 percent said they would not consider relinquishing their U.S. citizenship, and 11 percent did not know.
Personally, I think the question and answer options for the survey are a set-up.

Here is the question:

" Would you consider voluntarily relinquishing your U.S. citizenship due to the impact of FATCA?"

I would "consider" damn near anything.

I considered being a vegetarian this morning.

I think a better question would have been "How likely are you to relinquish your US passport....?"

But to ask if they would even "consider" it seems like a loaded question.

Also, it says " Seventy-three percent of respondents answered that they had "actively considered it", "are thinking about it" or "have explored the options of it."

That means that 72% could have all answered "have explored options of it."

That sounds much more "normal" and exploring options of anything that will help you avoid taxes is a no-brainer.

As others have mentioned, it would be great to see how many of those surveyed will actually do it. I'm guessing next to none.

And out of the 400+ people they surveyed you would think they would have come across ex-Americans that had done it already. Surely they would have mentioned them, right? So they obviously didn't come across a single one.
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General Mackevili wrote:I considered being a vegetarian this morning.
You wash your mouth out with bacon.

Oh... sorry!
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I've thought about it but then remembered that my spoiled ass is a citizen of a 1st world country and no where else.

How the fuck does one live without citizenship to a country. Dual citizens only. Misleading..
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↑ personally I want to see Australia require 'new citizens' from countries with dodgy politics renounce their original citizenship.
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StroppyChops wrote:
General Mackevili wrote:The article may be bullshit, but what does this have to do with Duncan? ?
This.

Cause its all bullshit, plus, as i stated, loads of just wrong info.
Without the source or even checking the info u can lead people astray or even incite riots.

Duncan posted it , am sure he didn't write it ( or researched any of it)
but there is no source

kinda like quoting things from http://notthenation.com/ as real
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New Visa Rules Exclude Everyone Except Sex Tourists, Alcoholics, Drug Addicts, Ravers, Illiterate Troglodytes

Effective today, tourist and non-immigrant business visas will be limited only to persons whose motives for entering Thailand involve solicitation of sex workers, consumption of alcholic beverages and mind-altering illicit substances, attendance at all-night music parties, or petty criminal activity that doesn’t involve politics.

“Thailand can no longer endure the presence of certain types of undesirable persons, such as journalists, academics, NGO employees, teachers, responsible business owners, or those working for charitable social organizations,” said Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong, the NCPO’s economic chief and acting head of Immigration.

“Foreigners who engage in activities such as writing, reading, thinking, discussion, dissemination of truthful information, the betterment of underprivileged people, and empathy with the electoral majority are simply incompatible with maintaining unity among all Thais.”
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^ how about troglodytes that 'read' comics?
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