Imagine the poor suffering souls at Huawei and LG having to sift through millions of bytes of data from people like pissontheroof!

Why would some western douche living on a pittance in SE Asia be of interest to the Communists?

YaTingPom wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:56 am Imagine the poor suffering souls at Huawei and LG having to sift through millions of bytes of data from people like pissontheroof!

Why would some western douche living on a pittance in SE Asia be of interest to the Communists?

Proud Huawei user

Their main crime was providing too much competition to Apple and Samsung - who both share as much, if not more, sensitive user data with the US state apparatus and the other five eyes spy nations as Huawei do with the chinese state apparatus

They are more than welcome to spy on my life and know what flavour of weed I'm smoking or what my dinner plans are lol. I run all Google apps on my Huawei too - just need to do some very basic trickery to bypass the play store ban

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:26 am

YaTingPom wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:56 am Imagine the poor suffering souls at Huawei and LG having to sift through millions of bytes of data from people like pissontheroof!

Why would some western douche living on a pittance in SE Asia be of interest to the Communists?

Proud Huawei user

Their main crime was providing too much competition to Apple and Samsung - who both share as much, if not more, sensitive user data with the US state apparatus and the other five eyes spy nations as Huawei do with the chinese state apparatus

They are more than welcome to spy on my life and know what flavour of weed I'm smoking or what my dinner plans are lol. I run all Google apps on my Huawei too - just need to do some very basic trickery to bypass the play store ban

I do find it amusing that all these conspiracy nuts think that "they" are spying on them 24/7 and everyone else. The only people who give a shit are the people trying to sell you stuff and you can just ignore the emails and adverts and so no!

If you have any form of ID, a credit card, voter registration, a phone "they" know all about you, and here is the rub, they really don't give a toss, unless you are planning to bl%w up the Pentagon. See, we like it when the security services stop atrocities but not when they are seeing what I had for lunch or who I shagged last night.

"Fuck da police" until they get robbed or attacked then it's "Call da police!".

This thread could have gone many different ways...

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:48 am They would only be trying to sell you stuff in western countries.

In communist China, you are a chive waiting to be harvested by the party.

New law passed in China forcing all private companies with 10 employees and above to become a joint venture with a state enterprise, with the state taking the majority control of the private company.

Competition is good. Except against the CCP.

I am not from mainland China, like you, and I have never lived there or even visited, like you, but I would imagine that the vast majority of its citizens are fine with the way things work. That may seem odd to our western ideals but that is the way it is.

Sure, there's a liberal movement but there always has been. It's just now with social media and the younger large Chinese diaspora (many of whom have never set foot in China) their minority views are being spouted on the world.

We get you hate China but don't let it cloud your views.

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I am not from mainland China, like you, and I have never lived there or even visited, like you, but I would imagine that the vast majority of its citizens are fine with the way things work. That may seem odd to our western ideals but that is the way it is.

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I have lived there, and I found it to be pretty much as you said.

People there are much the same as in other countries.

They have jobs, they send their kids to school, they travel during public holidays, they go shopping and to restaurants, they have hopes, dreams and goals that are realistic and the same as anywhere else - go to university, get a good job, marry, buy a house, have kids, travel...

They're generally positive about the direction China is going in because life for the average family has improved dramatically over the last several generations. They bitch about their politicians the same way we do, most people acknowledge their government isn't perfect, but are pragmatic enough to measure its shortcomings against what it has managed to do for the country. The feeling you get there when you talk to people is that of pride for their country, they know it still has its issues but it has come a long way in a short time, and that's no small achievement.

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:43 pm

Random Dude wrote:

I am not from mainland China, like you, and I have never lived there or even visited, like you, but I would imagine that the vast majority of its citizens are fine with the way things work. That may seem odd to our western ideals but that is the way it is.

I have lived there, and I found it to be pretty much as you said.

People there are much the same as in other countries.

They have jobs, they send their kids to school, they travel during public holidays, they go shopping and to restaurants, they have hopes, dreams and goals that are realistic and the same as anywhere else - go to university, get a good job, marry, buy a house, have kids, travel...

They're generally positive about the direction China is going in because life for the average family has improved dramatically over the last several generations. They bitch about their politicians the same way we do, most people acknowledge their government isn't perfect, but are pragmatic enough to measure its shortcomings against what it has managed to do for the country. The feeling you get there when you talk to people is that of pride for their country, they know it still has its issues but it has come a long way in a short time, and that's no small achievement.[/quote]

Wish it were completely true. Chinese people have a wonderful culture. Communist government crushes them. The country really developed when it opened up to the West. Took a course in college on the average Chinese in comparing them in 1909, 1920s, 1949. Basically how communism broke the cycle of Chinese mentality and ‘saved’ the people. (Ultra liberal university).

Now many in the new generation are now ‘lying down’ and adopting the 10 ‘NOs’. As a last ditch attempt to survive life there.

Bitching about the wrong politicians there gets prison or house arrest. Not just for that person, but their extended family. No shopping or traveling in the major cities right now. Three generations income are required to buy a home.
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"A last ditch attempt to survive there."

Lol, what?!!


"Bitching about the wrong politicians there gets prison or house arrest. Not just for that person, but their extended family"

People bitch about officials in everyday conversation constantly, especially after some sort of crisis where officials mishandle the situation. Just like everywhere else. Nobody is listening with hidden microphones, waiting to drag the average Zhou and his extended family away.
If you actively try to get some sort of movement going to stir dissent, you might get the infamous invitation for 'a cup of tea' with a couple of members of the PSB, where they'll have a talk with you. If you're seen as a serious threat to public order, then you might face more serious consequences.
It's not perfect as far as freedom of speech goes but, just like where we live, the vast majority of the population aren't interested in trying to go up against their government anyway, they're mostly content with the status quo and are only interested in getting on with their lives and maybe having the occasional whinge.

"No shopping or traveling in the major cities right now."

LOL, what? Chinese New Year is just starting, it's the busiest time of the year for travel. It's a boom time for retailers and restaurants. People are having trouble buying tickets to Beijing because of the huge demand for them.


"Three generations income are required to buy a home."

Real estate can be expensive there. If you've been paying attention you'll know that's not just a Chinese thing. There's a housing crisis in most (all?) western countries.