Foreigner abandons family over $2.50

xandreu · Post by **xandreu** » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:44 pm

Cam Nivag wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:04 pm
xandreu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:54 pm Racism sucks doesn't it? I mean, to be a foreigner that comes to an Asian country and gets treated differently from a native is absolutely disgusting.

Perhaps the OP should bring up this racism with his boss and ensure that he get's paid the same as a Khmer national for doing exactly the same job. That should equal things out a bit.
How many white people in Cambodia do the same job as a Khmer?

Many, many, many. Especially when it comes to teaching. I'm an English teacher, and I work with many Khmer English teachers who earn a fraction of what I do. The only difference between me and them is I'm British and can pronounce words in received pronunciation. But on the other hand, they've spent 3 years studying English at university. I haven't. I'd say that when you balance up the pro's and con's, they are no less qualified than me. But they earn a lot less, simply because they're Khmer and don't pronounce some words correctly.

Being of white privileged and screaming racism at every opportunity annoys the hell out of me. Racism occurs in many, many forms. We're happy to accept that we're paid a lot more because we happen to have been born and brought up in a Western country and thus, speak English as our first language, but when we're we're asked to pay an extra dollar or two for an occasional boat trip, we make such a drama out of it.

It needs to stop. Either racism is always bad, in which case, we should be paid the same, and live the same as a native Khmer, or we accept that racism exists and that, on the whole, we do quite well out of it.

Even if it means that on the odd occasion we want to go on boat down the river, we're going to be charged a little bit more.

Sometimes we need to STFU.

Bubble T · Post by **Bubble T** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:10 am

whiteribbon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:47 pm I don't feel it's wrong to charge tourists more for things like musea and Angkor Wat and stuff, same in Europe.

In most of Europe it is firmly illegal to charge people more money on the basis of race or nationality. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it is clearly unethical and usually illegal. I generally make a point of avoiding places that have official racist price structures whenever possible. Been here 16 years, wasn't cool with it 16 years ago and still not cool with it now. The fact that even EDC does the same thing is outrageous.

I love this country but will continue to avoid racist business practices whenever I have the option. When Cambodians come to my country they can be assured that they will never be charged more simply for being foreign.

hburns · Post by **hburns** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:11 am

I'm all for doing this in Britain. Why should someone who pays tax which is used in the upkeep of historical sites pay the same as a visitor who has contributed nothing? I've only noticed this dual pricing in Asia.

As for using dual pricing based on someone's colour as your private business model, well, that's up to the business owner but it's definitely racist.

Rather than just boycott the trip he should set up a rival business offering the same price to everyone and take all the tourist trade away from the racist.

Bubble T · Post by **Bubble T** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:19 am

hburns wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:11 am I'm all for doing this in Britain. Why should someone who pays tax which is used in the upkeep of historical sites pay the same as a visitor who has contributed nothing?

"The 39.2 million overseas visitors who came to the UK in 2017 spent £24.5 billion"

Tell me more about how tourists contribute "nothing" to the British economy......

xandreu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:44 pmEither racism is always bad, in which case, we should be paid the same

1. Not all foreigners are paid more than all Khmers. Well paid Khmers exist, due to point 2.
2. Pay here is generally based on what you do and how good you are at it. Tax is based on how much you earn, so you already contribute more if you earn more.

Yes, coming from western countries often means we are at an advantage in the job market, but we're still theoretically paid based on the value we bring to our jobs. I'm sure there are exceptions but that doesn't mean they are ethically justifiable.

hburns · Post by **hburns** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:20 am

Bubble T wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:19 am
hburns wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:11 am I'm all for doing this in Britain. Why should someone who pays tax which is used in the upkeep of historical sites pay the same as a visitor who has contributed nothing?
"The 39.2 million overseas visitors who came to the UK in 2017 spent £24.5 billion"

Tell me more about how tourists contribute "nothing" to the British economy......

OK, nothing was the wrong word to use but there is still a big difference between VAT which anyone who spends money pays and income tax which is paid by people earning.

As you are obviously into your numbers maybe you can work out how much of the £24.5 billion went to the government and in the same year how much income tax was collected.

Cam Nivag · Post by **Cam Nivag** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:54 am

bvanfossen wrote: ↑Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:21 pm I get the the guy is upset the way the boat ticket handler spoke and him getting upset and boycotting.
If the person spoke down that much the whole family should have boycotted the boat trip and done something else.

The ticket seller, a native Khmer speaker, simply told the foreigner's sister in law, a native Khmer speaker, in the Khmer language, that the foreigner had to pay more. Why is that offensive? Why does he expect all Cambodians to speak to him in English?

bolueeleh · Post by **bolueeleh** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:02 am

had been refused service in a whitey country many times b4, suck it up OP, it cuts both ways, prejudice is inborn n nurtured in human race, either u get very rich or get the hell out

Beerinthemorning · Post by **Beerinthemorning** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:28 am

Thats five anchor cans, or four bowls of bor bor

Or a 2$ joint and a 50c beer.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:00 am

you left out the pineapple cost index
shameful omission considering your historic expertise in this area

Hotdigr · Post by **Hotdigr** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:00 pm

Cam Nivag wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:54 am
The ticket seller, a native Khmer speaker, simply told the foreigner's sister in law, a native Khmer speaker, in the Khmer language, that the foreigner had to pay more. Why is that offensive? Why does he expect all Cambodians to speak to him in English?

Damn, I must be getting soft because I actually agree with Cam on this (first time for everything I s'pose!).
Also the fact that the OP has acknowledged that he knew the correct price was $5 after reading it on the sign. Was he going to do the right thing and offer to pay the advertised price? Or try to put one over the khmer ticket seller and just pay the discounted price? Knowing how these things work, if it was the latter, the extra $2.50 would most probably been taken out of the ticket sellers meagre wages if it had been noticed.
Another day, another whinger.

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