Foreign tourists trapped in Cambodia by red tape

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:00 am

He's devious means to keep the tourism section alive in Cambodia :stir:

Foreign holidaymakers have effectively become stranded in Cambodia because of extreme conditions being set by airports around the world. Governments are enforcing strict policies that all transiting passengers must have their health certified by an acceptable hospital before leaving any Cambodian international airport to return to their home country.

....all airline companies now require foreign tourists to have their health certified by the French non-profit Pasteur Institute in Phnom Penh, ensuring that they are not affected with COVID-19.

.......Pasteur Institute does not check for those who do not show symptoms of being sick, in an effort to preserve the limited number of testing kits in the country. Adding to the conundrum, Pasteur Institute will only issue positive test and the negative test certificate will not be issued, for reasons currently unknown.

“We have heard that doctors at the referral hospital are refusing to check some people, if they have just stated they are for travelling purposes, explaining that there are many serious patients to look after,” she added. “This is the conundrum that all tourists are now facing because they need to go back home now, with many spending all their money on tickets back home, only to have their flights cancelled and find they cannot be refunded.”

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50706196/c ... lrpm1x0Ldc

j57 · Post by **j57** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:24 am

If you test negative today and get your fucking piece of paper... you can test positive tomorrow.
This medical form is nonsense.
Medical professionals around the world are telling people not to be tested unless you have severe symptoms.
Cambodia certainly does not have a shit load of test kits to waste.
the need for some bullshit form saying you tested negative or were healthy 2 or 3 days ago is a joke.
Asymptomatic people are more dangerous than a sick person who is bedridden.

cautious colin · Post by **cautious colin** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:30 am

I feel like this is more to do with other countries red tape rather than Cambodia’s.

Can’t be wasting tests just so people can fly when then are needed/will be needed very soon.

Unnecessary spin.

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:45 am

At least the Pasteur Institute has it's head screwed on right,
this is a global health crisis.

Suck eggs stranded holidaymakers. You should have gone home weeks ago.
Limit pushing is fine, but you gotta cop the consequences squarely on the chin
- not expect vital resources be diverted to bail you out when your gamble goes bad.
or perfectly sensible policies by nations, airlines and health authorities subverted.

No "red tape" to been seen. Anywhere.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:14 am

KT's report is a bit late. This is no longer the case, because the Thais are no longer asking for a covid-19 negative test, just a Fit to Fly statement. The poster on this link is a travel agent and he says there is no problem getting one for $40. Here, at AEMC: https://european-medicare.com/

From: the-road/health-certificate-get-out-cam ... ml#p407644

So, normally, this should no longer be an issue. However, I think this is good only until the end of the month ?

Post by **Freightdog** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:28 am

j57 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:24 am If you test negative today and get your fucking piece of paper... you can test positive tomorrow.
This medical form is nonsense.
Medical professionals around the world are telling people not to be tested unless you have severe symptoms.
Cambodia certainly does not have a shit load of test kits to waste.
the need for some bullshit form saying you tested negative or were healthy 2 or 3 days ago is a joke.
Asymptomatic people are more dangerous than a sick person who is bedridden.

The modern world we live in- Risk assessments, along with a calculated gamble.
I’d say, the cost of having an aircraft, and crew stranded in some far off location due to having someone onboard who has contracted the virus, and now affected everyone else. Or worse still, the aircraft having to divert en-route due to someone becoming Very sick, and the airline being liable for finding those passengers onboard accommodation and assistance can be quite high.

Try getting repatriated from abroad if you are sick. The paperwork can take quite a while, and urgency is not factor in getting it done. Few want the cost/liability.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:31 am

“We have heard that doctors at the referral hospital are refusing to check some people, if they have just stated they are for travelling purposes, explaining that there are many serious patients to look after,” she added. “This is the conundrum that all tourists are now facing because they need to go back home now, with many spending all their money on tickets back home, only to have their flights cancelled and find they cannot be refunded.”

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Makes sense to me. I can imagine the Cambodian health system is pretty stressed already, and they don't want to waste time and resources for people needing a 'fit to fly' document.

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:51 am

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:14 am KT's report is a bit late. This is no longer the case, because the Thais are no longer asking for a covid-19 negative test, just a Fit to Fly statement. The poster on this link is a travel agent and he says there is no problem getting one for $40. Here, at AEMC: https://european-medicare.com/

From: the-road/health-certificate-get-out-cam ... ml#p407644

So, normally, this should no longer be an issue. However, I think this is good only until the end of the month ?

that is a temp fix ( fit to fly) and only valid for those Transiting thailand, (or Thai's returning home) not those wishing to enter which no tourists can at the moment till end of april

I have no idea what other countries are requesting to be allowed in.
other than Singapore or Malaysian where no non-citizens are allowed to enter

Thailand has effectively closed its doors for non-resident foreigners wanting to enter the country under the state of emergency that comes into force on Thursday (March 26), Only some groups of people will be allowed to enter and exit the country and only the prime minister and responsible authorities will be authorised to open the borders in special cases.

Those who transport goods will be allowed to enter the country provided they leave quickly. Operators of land, sea and air transport like drivers, pilots and ship crew must follow their time table. Diplomatic staff, members of international organisations and government representatives who have missions in Thailand are allowed to come in. Their family members also will be allowed if authorised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Non-Thai nationals who have work permits in Thailand also will be allowed. Thai nationals contracted with a Thai embassy or consulate must obtain a fit-to-fly health certificate issued no more than 72 hours before travelling.

even those on marriage extensions or retirement extensions,if we leave,we cant come back in
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384829

nave · Post by **nave** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:11 am

....all airline companies now require foreign tourists to have their health certified by the French non-profit Pasteur Institute in Phnom Penh, ensuring that they are not affected with COVID-19.

is this really true?
I have also never heard of airlines requireing health certificates except for Thai Air.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:12 am

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:51 am
Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:14 am KT's report is a bit late. This is no longer the case, because the Thais are no longer asking for a covid-19 negative test, just a Fit to Fly statement. The poster on this link is a travel agent and he says there is no problem getting one for $40. Here, at AEMC: https://european-medicare.com/

From: the-road/health-certificate-get-out-cam ... ml#p407644

So, normally, this should no longer be an issue. However, I think this is good only until the end of the month ?
that is a temp fix ( fit to fly) and only valid for those Transiting thailand, (or Thai's returning home) not those wishing to enter which no tourists can at the moment till end of april

I have no idea what other countries are requesting to be allowed in.
other than Singapore or Malaysian where no non-citizens are allowed to enter

Thailand has effectively closed its doors for non-resident foreigners wanting to enter the country under the state of emergency that comes into force on Thursday (March 26), Only some groups of people will be allowed to enter and exit the country and only the prime minister and responsible authorities will be authorised to open the borders in special cases.

Those who transport goods will be allowed to enter the country provided they leave quickly. Operators of land, sea and air transport like drivers, pilots and ship crew must follow their time table. Diplomatic staff, members of international organisations and government representatives who have missions in Thailand are allowed to come in. Their family members also will be allowed if authorised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Non-Thai nationals who have work permits in Thailand also will be allowed. Thai nationals contracted with a Thai embassy or consulate must obtain a fit-to-fly health certificate issued no more than 72 hours before travelling.
even those on marriage extensions or retirement extensions,if we leave,we cant come back in
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384829

The thread (that you started) is about foreign TOURISTS who are stranded in Cambodia because they say they cannot transit through Thailand. (That's what the title says anyway.)They don't want to go to Thailand. They want to be allowed to transit through Bangkok Airport, so they can fly home from Cambodia.
Well, now they no longer need to go and annoy busy Cambodian hospital staff with demands for a coronavirus test, because Thailand has said that if they get a Fit to Fly report then they can fly out through Thailand as long as they remain in the international zone and the transit is no longer than 24 hours. (See the link provided to see where to get FTF report.)

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